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Reform Uk Streaking Ahead
Well, at least by a poll being carried out by The Express asking how would you vote today? ;
Reform UK, 52%
Tories, 29%
Labour, 11 %
Lib Dems, 2%
SNP, 1%
and yes I know it's The Express, but still interesting don't you think?
Reform UK, 52%
Tories, 29%
Labour, 11 %
Lib Dems, 2%
SNP, 1%
and yes I know it's The Express, but still interesting don't you think?
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There seems a heck of a lot of Brexit supporters who normally vote Tory but who are sick of the lack of progress re NI and border control who effectively only have Reform to switch their vote to. Add on Brexit supporting Labour voters who feel neither main parties are interested in ensuring true independence for our nation and one might find Reform gathers...
18:38 Mon 12th Dec 2022
// right candidates they could even get someone elected into Parliament, if Farage were to stand //
Nigel has stood several times and as yet to win a seat.
Don't get me wrong, I actually believe NF is deserving of a knighthood. For he was to change British politics.
It was well known that Labour didn't want Brexit. Cameron offered it but didn't want it, whereas NF campaigned successfully and got it.
Quite a feat!
Nigel has stood several times and as yet to win a seat.
Don't get me wrong, I actually believe NF is deserving of a knighthood. For he was to change British politics.
It was well known that Labour didn't want Brexit. Cameron offered it but didn't want it, whereas NF campaigned successfully and got it.
Quite a feat!
There seems a heck of a lot of Brexit supporters who normally vote Tory but who are sick of the lack of progress re NI and border control who effectively only have Reform to switch their vote to. Add on Brexit supporting Labour voters who feel neither main parties are interested in ensuring true independence for our nation and one might find Reform gathers sufficient wins to hold the balance of power whether Nigel joins the fray, or not. Were he to be offered and take leadership of the party then it'd be even better odds of controlling the political direction after the GE. I'd certainly not mock the suggestion.
Considering the issues with border control -- as stated frequently by a lot of Brexit supporters themselves -- are nothing whatever to do with Brexit, and the NI protocol issues were CAUSED by Brexit, then I am surrprised to read the following: "a lot of Brexit supporters who normally vote Tory but who are sick of the lack of progress re NI and border control who effectively only have Reform to switch their vote to"
I think if "Reform UK" pick up votes it'll simply be from right wing Tories who think the party is not "Tory" enough".
The dynamic over Brexit has surely changed: many voters voted for Johnson's party simply to "get Brexit done". It has been done, they have seen that their "Leave" vote counted and now they wish to move on.
I think if "Reform UK" pick up votes it'll simply be from right wing Tories who think the party is not "Tory" enough".
The dynamic over Brexit has surely changed: many voters voted for Johnson's party simply to "get Brexit done". It has been done, they have seen that their "Leave" vote counted and now they wish to move on.
NI was not caused by Brexit, it was caused by the reaction to Brexit by the EU, an organisation that would not sort out their own border checks away from the Irish border, because it served their purpose to cause trouble, claim their required checks were the responsibility of the UK not them, and blame the UK for their failure into the bargain. Some folk seem to have fallen for that ploy.
As for border issues, it may not be directly a Brexit issue but since Brexit proved necessary but insufficient to return control of our borders to us it was up to parliament to withdraw from whatever was preventing us applying sensible action to solve the issue. Neither the present government, nor the present main opposition, has shown any sign of trying to progress that; the most we have heard are individuals talking the talk but seemingly prevented from walking the walk.
As for border issues, it may not be directly a Brexit issue but since Brexit proved necessary but insufficient to return control of our borders to us it was up to parliament to withdraw from whatever was preventing us applying sensible action to solve the issue. Neither the present government, nor the present main opposition, has shown any sign of trying to progress that; the most we have heard are individuals talking the talk but seemingly prevented from walking the walk.
//...and the NI protocol issues were CAUSED by Brexit...//
Depends how you look at it, I suppose. I take the view that it was necessary because of the EU's requirement for a hard border where one was not strictly necessary. It would be quite easy to differentiate between goods from GB destined to remain in NI and those which would cross the border. But they wouldn't hear of it because they chose to weaponise the border in its attempt to make Brexit as difficult as possible. Instead the UK government had to agree to the ridiculous arrangement which effectively places a customs border within a sovereign nation. It needs to be addressed properly forthwith.
//...many voters voted for Johnson's party simply to "get Brexit done". It has been done...//
Unless you are unfortunate enough to live in Northern Ireland.
Depends how you look at it, I suppose. I take the view that it was necessary because of the EU's requirement for a hard border where one was not strictly necessary. It would be quite easy to differentiate between goods from GB destined to remain in NI and those which would cross the border. But they wouldn't hear of it because they chose to weaponise the border in its attempt to make Brexit as difficult as possible. Instead the UK government had to agree to the ridiculous arrangement which effectively places a customs border within a sovereign nation. It needs to be addressed properly forthwith.
//...many voters voted for Johnson's party simply to "get Brexit done". It has been done...//
Unless you are unfortunate enough to live in Northern Ireland.
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sp; //If the poll had been carried out by a politically neutral body it would be interesting, but Express polls are silly.//
" The Daily Express had a monthly audience of around 2.7 million individuals from April 2019 to March 2020 in the United Kingdom. Reach was higher among adults over the age of 35 than for the 15 to 35 age group, with 20.18 million and four million readers respectively. "
All voters !
" The Daily Express had a monthly audience of around 2.7 million individuals from April 2019 to March 2020 in the United Kingdom. Reach was higher among adults over the age of 35 than for the 15 to 35 age group, with 20.18 million and four million readers respectively. "
All voters !
KHANDRO, your link doesn’t work. I thought it might be a copying error so I did a Google search and it come up with a hit but clicking on it showed that link was broken .
I copied the text in that hit and searched for it but it produced no relevant hits.
The Express uses Techne UK and the latest poll from them shows they questioned 1,625 folk across the UK online on 7th and 8th December. That poll shows a figure of 5% for the Reform Party.
Could it be that the absence of the page and the apparently rogue polling results are connected?
I copied the text in that hit and searched for it but it produced no relevant hits.
The Express uses Techne UK and the latest poll from them shows they questioned 1,625 folk across the UK online on 7th and 8th December. That poll shows a figure of 5% for the Reform Party.
Could it be that the absence of the page and the apparently rogue polling results are connected?
//When you think about it, anyone who is equally disappointed with the two main parties has nothing at all to lose by voting for a minority party//
Unfortunately that isn't true because in all probability they're likely to end up with the least favoured of the big two - so actually they've quite a lot to lose.
Unfortunately that isn't true because in all probability they're likely to end up with the least favoured of the big two - so actually they've quite a lot to lose.
corby; The readership figures are from Statista.
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naomi ; //Unfortunately that isn't true because in all probability they're likely to end up with the least favoured of the big two - so actually they've quite a lot to lose.//
Read my post again (which you yourself reposted) I said, "anyone who is EQUALLY disappointed with the two main parties"
If you are equally disappointed you have no preference for either of them, so may as well vote for someone else of whom you at least like what they are advocating.
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naomi ; //Unfortunately that isn't true because in all probability they're likely to end up with the least favoured of the big two - so actually they've quite a lot to lose.//
Read my post again (which you yourself reposted) I said, "anyone who is EQUALLY disappointed with the two main parties"
If you are equally disappointed you have no preference for either of them, so may as well vote for someone else of whom you at least like what they are advocating.
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