Squeezing The Last Drop?

[douglas9401]

Is this really neccessary, an admin teenager tried nearly eighty years on?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64036465

[naomi24]

^Illogical.

[douglas9401]

If we're looking to prosecute folk for collating information then those with sometime troublesome spreadsheets may want to form an escape plan for when the knock comes at the door, just in case.

[bednobs]

there's a lot to be said for forgiveness - for individuals it can be very cathartic and part of a healing process, but states/countries shouldn't forgive and forget IMO. It's part of what prevents the same atrocities happening again. so crimes are so heinous that simply being associated with them even in what seems a very tangential manner (as i said i was at the trial so i dont know how close her role was) in enough for punishment. I'm sure there were some very nice people in the SS. but the SS overall is bad

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // I think a lot of Germans did a lot of things they didn’t want to do - for obvious reasons. //

So far, your two contributions to the thread both effectively say the same thing - the woman in question, along with millions of other Germans, was forced into working in a system she may have found abhorrent, because she was in fear of her life.

When I responded that we may as well not bother to pursue any of the current war criminals, because they are operating under similar conditions, you dismissed as 'illogical'.

To my mind, it is the very essence of logic.

You are suggesting that a woman who acted for an oppressive regime should not be held responsible for her part in that regime's actions.

I am simply updating your position to today, when clearly we cannot hold conscripted militia responsible for their actions in Ukraine, because they may be acting against their will, in the interests of self-preservation.

If there is an absence of logic between connecting the two scenarios, perhaps you'd care to explain it to anyone who is interested.

[andy-hughes]

bednobs - // I'm sure there were some very nice people in the SS. //

It's raison d'etre and its history rather suggests otherwise, I think you'll find -

https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/ss

[naomi24]

AH, If anyone is interested no doubt they’ll ask me themselves.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // AH, If anyone is interested no doubt they’ll ask me themselves. //

I'm interested.

I'm asking please.

[Peter Pedant]

We'd better abandon any thought of bringing any Russians to trial for any of the atrocities in Ukraine

yeah but no but
You can't just get any Russian ( baboochka or whomever) and say - "well you were near,so you must have done it!" - bamma-lamma lamma lamma....

[naomi24]

Ok, AH. I’ll get around to it sometime.