Update On The Lady Mone Ppe Scandal

[Hymie]

The government is seeking to recover the money paid for the defective PPE plus the costs of storage and disposal. Medpro claims the PPE was supplied as specified by the contract, but the legal complaint (filed by the Department of Health and Social Care) alleges that Medpro provided false accreditation, claiming compliance with the PPE Directive for the gowns.

If true, it should be easy to prove; besides being CE marked, each gown is required to bear the assigned Notified Body Number of the organisation that performed the accreditation. The Department of Health and Social Care claims the gowns had no such number marking, and further that the claimed (by Medpro) accreditation body has denied any involvement.

The government’s lawsuit is seeking £133 million, but what with Mone and her husband taking £65 million out of the company, even if they get a verdict in their favour there may be insufficient company assets to settle the debt – leaving the taxpayer to pick up the tab.

[bobbinwales]

Gulliver do it offline yo the Ed....we don't need insults on here

[naomi24]

Hymie, there's something potentially libellous about accusing people of committing criminal activity with no evidence. What I said was for Gulliver's benefit - and for the benefit of this site.

[gulliver1]

08.57 Bobbinwales "Grow up"

[youngmafbog]

Oh dear, a potentially interesting thread wrecked by the usual.

[vulcan42]

gulliver you're the one that should grow up. Bobbinwales is quite correct, if you have a problem with this site report it to the editor.

[bobbinwales]

I don't think it's libellous what was said .... there's lots of worse stuff in private eye and all over the Web and from leftwing nudge teams on twitter and tiktok....but complaints about moderation should be done politely

[gulliver1]

09.32 But I don't have a problem with this site.

[Ellipsis]

It would appear to be one of many rip-offs perpetrated against the state during Covid. No doubt the company itself will not have the means to pay back the money. Prosecutions of individuals may follow and the Proceeds of Crime Act may allow money to be recovered. A lot of mays there.

On the other hand Mone's reputation is pretty much trashed already, despite being innocent until proven guilty.

[Peter Pedant]

What does Leddy Mone sing in the bath ( er sozza barf)?)
Money Money !
hur hur hur - the hit song from the 1960s

( standard ABer: I am ninety how on earth am I meant to know what went on in the sixties)

sing it? I bet she is - - moaning it

Seneca: no man should make a profit from the Roman Republic.
And he was no ca-ca - not that anyone ( Julius Caesar) listened. Boris the Latinist would know all about that !

[Peter Pedant]

Hymie, there's something potentially libellous about accusing people of committing criminal activity with no evidence.

no there isnt

check up with lawyer - Barmaid will do

honest allegations ( such as Mone has profted from the state) are protected incredz by witness immunity

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/07/wednesday-briefing-what-you-need-to-know-about-allegations-against-tory-peer-michelle-mone
Graudniad's lawyers clearly dont think it is libellous
so I am onto a go-er here

[ widely an repeatedly covered by my neighbour ( Abbie are you listening) telling the police I was a child molester. and when I proved I wasnt both parties said - "oh! OK then".
You have to prove malice to cover allegation to the police]

no need to tear this thread apart as usual

[naomi24]

PP, //no need to tear this thread apart as usual //

No there isn't - because you've got the wrong end of the stick - again. Take a breath.

[gulliver1]

Baroness Mone's husband gave the Tory Party £170,000 before the couple benefited from £200m
in Govt Contracts for PPE Equipment ."It is alleged"
Seems like a good investment for the return they had.

[Zacs-Master]

I don’t think he has, Naomi. If threads are going to be removed because of libellous potential, Mods should know libel laws in detail, otherwise they’re in danger of preventing free ‘speech’.

[naomi24]

I didn't remove his post, zacs. I gave him a word of warning to watch what he says.

[ToraToraTora]

Hymie has definitely been hacked, that's 2 posts now without a mention of brexit.

[Zacs-Master]

Naomi, you removed gulliver’s.

[Peter Pedant]

final para
equitable tracing - the govt lawyers ( ask Barmain) cd chase the 65m if the case is proven, from the company to the Leddy and hubby

and possibly make THEM bankrupt - in which case ( isnt theire a rule that a Lord cant be bankrupt?) it is bye bye Leddy Money and back to Mrs Money

[THECORBYLOON]

A Mod might err on the side of caution and the EDs can then decide whether to re-post or no, with or without an edit.

[Peter Pedant]

otherwise they’re in danger of preventing free ‘speech’.
dressed up as ignorance
well nothing new there then

Papers speak about civil suits being used to gag - Trump used to do that , and also Putin's lackeys and hangers on
those that havent jumped out of windows yet hur
hur hur

yeah Leddy Mone is in the spotlight and I bet when she eats her wobbly poacjhed egg in the morning, the whole of her wobbles as she eats !

[Zacs-Master]

We all have a right to write ignorant things, PP. if we didn’t, many of your posts would be instantly zapped.