Is It All Over For Boris Johnson?

[sp1814]

…or is there a way back for him?

What would have to happen to allow him back into Number 10?

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/is-it-finally-all-over-for-boris-johnson_uk_641c00f0e4b01ea5cd926faa

[ToraToraTora]

Yes I think the 5C, the lefties, the remoaners, multiple crises have finally knobbled the best PM since TGL. Hope they are all proud.

[ichkeria]

Well he will never be PM again regardless.

[douglas9401]

Tora, are you Nadine Dorries?

[ichkeria]

All his own doing.

He had an 80 seat majority and he messed it up. But maybe that’s not the point. He was brought in to wangle a Brexit deal. Everyone knew what he was like. Beforehand few MPs would give him the time of day. A local Tory MP here smirked at the mention of his name, tho he’d deny it now.
Having achieved what he was brought in for it was probably inevitable it’d be downhill thereafter

[sp1814]

TTT

Not forgetting Boris himself though. I’ve been listening to a great podcast (Partygate: The Inside Story) and what I never realised was just how much Tory MPs had grown tired of him - they’d go out defending a government line to their constituents and the media only to have the story flipped by Number 10.

[ToraToraTora]

no doug, I just never join the brainwashed baying mob. Boris was a great PM with a big majority. Hit by crisis after crisis from day 1, we will never know what could have been had he not been firefighting the whole time. The latest kangaroo court led by a former leader of the Labour party is just a sham spectacle over nothing.

[naomi24]

Probably - stitch ups often succeed - but if anyone thinks he'll fade into obscurity and let them off the hook I think they should think again. He could prove to be more damaging to his enemies outside parliament than in it. Be careful what you wish for?

[ToraToraTora]

ich: "He had an 80 seat majority and he messed it up." - rubbish, he was firefighting crises all the time, one of them close to your heart. Never got a chance to govern in normal circumstances.

[royfromaus]

People used to love him playing his half-ass'd game but....

[bhg481]

I think Boris will do more damage to his "friends" than his enemies. He seems determined to undermine the Tories in search of his own reincarnation. If he really cared about his country and his party he'd line up behind the current leadership in an attempt to survive the forthcoming election.

[naomi24]

Like they lined up behind him you mean? Rishi is never going to give them the victory Boris gave them. Rishi will be lucky if he teeters on the brink. Fools all.

[douglas9401]

Oh naomi, he's far too lazy to mount and sustain any kind of campaign.

He's far more likely to spend his time mooching around for freebies from 'friends' to keep him and his in the style they imagine they've earned.

But we'll see, if we're spared. :-)

[naomi24]

I didn't suggest he'll mount a campaign, douglas - and he certainly isn't lazy. Far from it. He isn't going to disappear.

[sp1814]

naomi24

In what way was he stitched up?

The problem at the end was that what made Boris a capable campaigner was a liability in government.

The last straw was Chris Pincher, but before that there was Owen Paterson, Partygate, 'Wallpapergate' and Jennifer Arcuri.

None of these problems were anyone else's fault. They were all self-inflicted wounds and the Tories came to realise that Boris for all his boosterist qualities wasn't the man to lead them.

[naomi24]

SP. his downfall has been 'partygate' - and if ever there was a malicious campaign so clearly designed to bring ruin it was that one.

[jno]

///Like they lined up behind him you mean?///

like he lined up behind May perhaps.

"Loyalty is the Tory party's secret weapon" - former Conservative Home Secretary David Maxwell Fyfe.

[sp1814]

naomi24

Nope…it was Chris Pincher. It was after he said he knew nothing about specific allegations, then changed the story - that was when it all blew up.

Also - Partygate has now moved on. It’s not so much the parties (plural) that are the problem - but the subsequent cover-up.

It’s always the cover-up, the lies and obfuscation that cause the problems

[MissTerious2]

Agree Naomi. And I find it pathetic!

[naomi24]

jno, he was far from alone in declining to line up behind May .... wouldn't you say?

[Peter Pedant]

well Trump if he comes back is telling all those who investigated him, that their lives are over.

if not before hur hur hur