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Boris Johnson Planned To Privatise The Nhs, Selling It Off To America

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Hymie | 06:59 Thu 27th Apr 2023 | News
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When Corbyn revealed this, the then International Trade Secretary Liz Truss described the claims as a “conspiracy theory”, saying that Corbyn was “getting desperate and is out-and-out lying to the public about what these documents contain”.

It now turns out that it was the Tories who were lying to the public all along.

https://bylinetimes.com/2023/04/24/boris-johnson-and-donald-trumps-private-talks-on-privatising-the-nhs-reveal-denials-were-untrue/
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I am sure if this is true other MSM such as the BBC would be hot on it.

Even if true though, all that is being claimed is a discussion. discussions should be held, doesnt mean they come to anything near fruition.
Did we sell the NHS to the USA in the end?
People 'discuss' things all the time, but that's a very long way from the idea of actually trying to get privatisation past Parliament.

They probably both discussed the pluses and minuses of being known for their hair as much as their politics - it doesn't mean that a law compelling everyone to dye their hair blond was going to be the result!
This feels like a non story to me much as I have no time for a lot of Johnsonian politics and no time for Trump at all
It might work a damn sight better if it was privatised.
davebro - // It might work a damn sight better if it was privatised. //

One of the threads running through our current society is the fatuous Tory notion that services run better if they are turned into businesses.

The idea that private ownership of public utilities was a good idea has been proven to be utterly wrong for decades - the railways, gas, water, electricity, all of them needing to provide service, and only being concerned with profit.

If you make a service into a business, you immediately change its major focus from providing a service, to making money, and making money starts and ends with cutting services - as has been proven all the way down the line.

If as a company, you are beholden to your shareholders to make them money, then that is where your entire focus lies, and the notion of providing a service floats away into the distance.

Trying to provide utilities as profit-making entities has been nothing but disastrous.

The NHS is already top-heavy with suits making decisions based on money-saving as an obsession, and the idea that it should bow to shareholders would see the end of the notion of care at all, replaced by the need to generate profit.
I am sure if this is true other MSM such as the BBC would be hot on it.
yeah OK mainstream AB
If it isnt reported, then it doesnt exist

hey come on, there are things called Secrets, and as Miss Marple might say, " and do you think this mmight be one?"

Trivially true - the Great and Good have always been looking at privatisation to make the NHS more efficient

The difficulty is - - the great private health firms - opt for the money makers ( acute medicine, scanny things etc) and leave the losers ( psych and paeds)

twas ever thus ( Thatcher)
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yeah, yesterddays men
One of the great thinkers of our time, cut down in his prime.
Apologies, that should read 'drinkers'.
sorry that should be frackers
how many wives has he had?
Even if it's true, so what? What is wrong with holding discussions about things? There is more than one way to do most things and it is logical to discuss them.
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It didn’t take long for the Tory Central Office to muster their troops, with the purpose of rubbishing this thread.

‘The NHS is safe in Tory hands’.....err, I think not.
Why is the NHS such a "holy cow" when other countries with better health outcomes (UK is about 10th I think) have different funding models including some form of private health insurance for the majority & not just the rich?
That's not the way one privatises an NHS ! That'd cause nationwide strikes. No. One does it by subcontracting out everything possible, using agency medical staff, private hospitals, etc. etc. etc.

Clearly any wholesale discussions would be stringing someone along in order to form a good relationship.
Hymie @ 09.30 Nothing was safe in Boris's hands ......except maybe Jennifer Arcuri.
We all know the NHS is in trouble but it is a political hot potato. I think it is right to debate what to do about it and it will take time for any reforms to be accepted.
\If as a company, you are beholden to your shareholders to make them money\

Which is in stark contrast to the public and govt being beholden to trade unions.
//One does it by subcontracting out everything possible, using agency medical staff, private hospitals, etc. etc. etc.//

Like Tony Blair started?
//It didn’t take long for the Tory Central Office to muster their troops, with the purpose of rubbishing this thread.//

Well maybe if you didnt write lies in the title it would help. He didnt plan anything, he (may have) had discussions. In case you are not aware one is actually starting to do something the other has no discernible outcome at that point.

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