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No Brexit supporting citizen was conned – you must be kidding.

Thousands of UK citizens, living within the EU, some owning property there were told by Gove that their rights would be maintained post Brexit – now they are all crying, limited to 90 days in any 180 in the EU – some not even qualifying to live in the property they own.

My own view of any such conned persons is that they should go and punch Gove on the nose for telling such bare faced lies that have so negatively impacted their lives.

All of them could've checked what they needed to do, and do it. Listening to how folk thought the EU member nations' government would be responsible adults beforehand can never be a total guarantee.

^Or ask the eu why they impose such rules...isvut just to be awkward and make a point?

Why check anything – Gove promised everything would be OK, they were conned.

If you want, I can post some sob stories on the topic direct from those conned.

…that fact that many were conned by Farage, Johnson, Gove, Davies etc

I most certainly was not among that “many”. Mr Farage was only 28 and was working as a commodity broker for Crédit Lyonnais when I made my decision. Mr Johnson was the same age and was working as a leader writer for the Daily Telegraph. I can’t recall having heard of either of them at that time. In any case, as I’ve said many times previously, anybody casting a vote based on what they heard from politicians was foolish. 

The Brexiteer call to arms – we must NEVER, NEVER, NEVER allow a future democratic referendum on re-joining the EU.

And that call comes from where, exactly? Quite honestly it is utterly foolish to call for a reversal of Brexit when it is not yet four years since we left. 

Thousands of UK citizens, living within the EU, some owning property there were told by Gove that their rights would be maintained post Brexit…

And so they were. Any UK citizens living in the EU prior to 1st January 2021 had their right of settlement protected. They are not limited to 90 days and are not prohibited from owning property or living in it. See page 13 of this EU presentation:

https://commission.europa.eu/system/files/2020-07/slides_the_wa_explained.pdf

UK citizens had to apply for residency status in most EU countries (the same as EU citizens had to in order to remain in the UK). 


If you want, I can post some sob stories on the topic direct from those conned.

I’m sure you could – and that’s exactly what they would be – “sob stories,”  I expect there are people  who fell foul of those rules or who had some extraordinary circumstances that made their position difficult. But generally the rights of the vast majority of people were retained.


Why check anything – Gove promised everything would be OK, they were conned.

Mostly it is OK. But to answer your question: (1) Because it is sensible to check everything to do with your status when living in a foreign country and (2) because you should never believe what politicians tell you (see above).


 

I think newjudge and I support different parties and have slightly different philosopy's om some redistribtion and economics.... but on this EU topic  (and some others) his arguments are very convincing and unpick Hymie's claims and rip many points to shreds

I’ll see if I can find the video of that lying toad, Gove (saying as outlined above).

Brexiteers continue to post that post-Brexit, the EU are deliberately making rules to spite us for leaving – this is nonsense, these rules apply to all third countries and most of these rules we agreed with (when we were members of the EU).

He has gone to ask for Micron's approval before he has even asked the British for their approval. It is an indication of who he intends to serve.  

There choice though Hymie.. If it makes things difficult for people living there then those people should take it up with EU.But as Newjudge explained "Any UK citizens living in the EU prior to 1st January 2021 had their right of settlement protected. They are not limited to 90 days and are not prohibited from owning property or living in it.'' ...so whats the problem

 

Here is a video that includes breath-taking lies from Gove.

Before Gove appears on TV again, each time this segment from Sky News should be shown – so that all are aware what a lying toad he

bobbinwales.

The problem is that we owned a house in France since 2008, and while we  were in Europe we could go there whenever we liked with the proviso that if we stayed there more than 6 months a year we might draw interest from the French tax authories. Now we can only stay for 90 days and then have to return to UK for 90 days before we go back to France. You can't maintain a veg garden with that constraint, and we can't enjoy a good long summer break.

It's not as simple as you think.

In the scheme of things its nothing atheist

Ha, the Brexiteers telling you that your suffering as a result of Brexit is just your tough luck.

19:14, cannot see any porkies in that video, can you explain.

in the real world alot of Brits have alot more to worry about paying there bills or rent on one home than the number of months they can stay in there second home in France. Anyway, was newjudge wrong when he said 

Any UK citizens living in the EU prior to 1st January 2021 had their right of settlement protected. They are not limited to 90 days and are not prohibited from owning property or living in it. See page 13 of this EU presentation

Starmer wants to cosy you up to this basket case cess pit and pledge to bail the place out    ...   again! 

 

https://www.youtube.watch?v=yUttZSB94Bw

That guy in Togo’s posted video explains how bad things are in France (who are in the EU), with overall inflation running at a whopping 4.9% and food inflation at an unbelievable 11.2%.

He does not mention that the UK (who are not in the EU), has an overall inflation rate of 6.4% and a food inflation rate of 14.9%.

What none of these Brexiteers mentions is that the UK GDP is down 4% as a direct result of Brexit – this figure dwarfs any marginal gains or losses in growth, or inflation differences between the UK and the Eurozone – Brexiteers simply cannot understand this.

That fellers just togos equivalent of your Phil youtuber Hymie. Neither tells  the full story....both cherry pick and twist things to suit them.

Most people can make there own minds up without youtubers

The Brexiteer call to arms – we must NEVER, NEVER, NEVER allow a future democratic referendum on re-joining the EU.

_________

 

You need professional.

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