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I am a little confused about Hammas and the innocents of Gaza.I am given to understand that Hamas were actually elected to become the ruling government of Palestine ! Who actually elected them? Was it the innocent Palestinians who are on the Gaza strip.? From what I read the innocent Palistinians are continually used as human shields when Israel is attacked...
18:17 Fri 13th Oct 2023

that's because they are equivalent. "collateral damage" is a euphemism for disregarding civilian casualties toratoratora... if you launch indiscriminate missiles into crowded civilian areas then you know what you are doing. it isn't an accident. that is why the geneva convention forbids it.

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...and there's another one, not far off sandy.

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collateral damage = not intended, end of.

Untitled, we're going round the houses with this so perhaps we can move the discussion on.  I think you said on the other thread that Israel shouldn't retaliate.  What would you suggest they do?

and when you are losing an argument on this topic you accuse your opponent of anti semitism... pathetic. 

i do not support hamas. i have been very careful to limit my criticism to the israeli government and not israelis as a whole because i understand the difference... hamas are evil and their crimes are despicable. i apply the same moral standard to the IDF

At least,the Palestinian terrorists have taken Putins Russian terrorists off the the front pages...for now.

you are simply incorrect tora tora... collateral means "along with" not accidental... if they meant accidental they would say it. the phrase is a euphemism devised by military organisations to trivialise civilian casualties

Untitled, you can't apply the same moral standard to two different sets of behaviour.  Israel doesn't do what Hamas does.

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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/collateral%20damage

..Injury inflicted on something other than the intended target.

Seems pretty conclusive to me.

Untitled, could you answer my question please?

Again, I'm totally with Untitled on this, and others.  I have been anti Israel for years because of their actions, but this could have been predicted.  This doesn't mean I agree with it and support Hamas.  I certainly am not  and in no way am I anti Jews.  

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So you are ok with all the hamas attrocities and Israel should just suck it up? Right oh!

@10.15.Thats what Hitler said,countryman.

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gulliver, either join the discussion in a sensible manner or go away.   This topic can do without your stupidity.

TTT  dont be so stupid!   Did I infer I'm OK with it?  I said I can understand why it has happened.  

gulliver does seem to be an enigmatic character on here Naomi.However he is also against the nutty SNP eejits,so he is allright by me.

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countrylover: "TTT  dont be so stupid!   Did I infer I'm OK with it?  I said I can understand why it has happened." - you can understand burning children alive in front of their parents? Beheading babies? Raping and murdering women? Gawd even the Nazis didn't do that.

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countrylover, have a go at my question here:

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1852049.html

 

TTT   you are still being stupid.  I can still understand why it happened.  Hamas is dreadful and if you think I support their actions you are a fool.   

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