What Are Ordinary Gazans Supposed To Do?

[Untitled]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-teenager-sees-parents-siblings-killed-after-seeking-safety-south-2023-10-23/
 

the israeli military has instructed families in gaza city to go south to avoid the bombardment... this family did as they were told and according to this report 13 of them were killed anyway because an airstrike hit their shelter... the young girl being interviewed says she is the only one left.

what are ordinary gazans supposed to do?

[naomi24]

I think it is war.  All wars bring suffering.  

[Untitled]

but was it wrong? it's okay to say if you're not sure or feel conflicted... but just saying "it's war it's war" misses the point... you can't just say that being at war justifies anything at all 

[naomi24]

I don't feel conflicted.  War is war and people suffer.  

[Untitled]

you don't think it's wrong then. 

[Zacs-Master]

Of course it's wrong. I don't know (and I'm not sure you know) what point you're trying to make. Would you care to put it in a nutshell?

[naomi24]

No.  I'm not going to condemn Israel for doing what it has to do.  

[ToraToraTora]

"What are ordinary gazana supposed to do" - Well Hamas are their representatives, they should look at changing that.

[Untitled]

thank you naomi. 

with that in mind i can't help but wonder what you think ordinary gazans should do. if it isn't wrong for the IDF to blow up a fleeing family then should they just accept death and maiming as the price of israel's self defence? 

[Zacs-Master]

No one has said it isn't wrong, untitled. 

[Untitled]

"Would you care to put it in a nutshell?"

I think that unconditional support of israel's means of retaliation leads people to become comfortable with some deeply horrible things.

[Zacs-Master]

No one has said they're 'comfortable' even. I think your reading things into peoples responses which aren't there. 

[naomi24]

untitled, // if it isn't wrong for the IDF to blow up a fleeing family then should they just accept death and maiming as the price of israel's self defence? //

 

That really is tripe.  You speak as though Israel targeted that family specifically.  Your idealistic notions are irrational and utterly unworkable.  

[Untitled]

Ok. accepting of horrible things then.

[naomi24]

Untitled, it's war.  Which bit of that don't you understand?

[Untitled]

"Your idealistic notions are irrational and utterly unworkable"

then what do you think ordinary gazans should do? you're completely unwilling to say that it is wrong for them to be hit with airstrikes and they cannot evacuate to safety so... what should they do? just accept it and stop complaining? what would you do?

[naomi24]

What can they do?  What can civilians in Israel or in any other war zone do when they're injured or killed in an enemy attack?  You tell me.

[Stableford]

Head south.  It is no guarantee of safety.  Hamas and Israel are at war, and as a result, innocent civilians will be killed.

[Untitled]

ordinarily they can flee to safety... gazans have had that taken away. those who are able might resist... that's not an option here either. 
 

the point is that if israel is unwilling to let anywhere be safe for civilians and just continue bombing them then they're commiting mass murder. 

[naomi24]

Israel is an enemy territory and Egypt doesn't want them.  Where do you suggest they go?  

[Untitled]

The west bank. It's part of the palestiniam authority so all gazans are citizens of it.