Shane Mcgowan-Henry Kissinger

[ynnafymmi]

Just asking like,but i seem to get the feeling that the death of an English pop singer(McGowan) seems more worthy of respect than the death of a world statesman(Kissinger).Any views either ways folks?

[jno]

English pop singer, you say

[ynnafymmi]

Yes,he was born in Kent.

[Togo]

One was Jewish whose parents fled nazi Germanyfor a better life, and one was English whose parents fled Ireland for a better life. No contest. 

[jno]

being born in a cupboard doesn't make you a  china plate.

[DTCwordfan]

No - my Aunt, aged 97, died last night, and she's probably considered as a 'local treasure' in her home town. 

And also Alistair Darling has passed away - he who had to manage Northern Rock, the failure of global banks and the excesses of his lord and master, Gordie Brown.

[ynnafymmi]

Methinks the death of a world statesman would take precedence over the death of an English pop singer,but what do i know?

[sandyRoe]

Many in Chile and South East Asia won't be shedding tears over the war criminal.

Shane, wherever he was born, brought pleasure to the audiences who saw him and those who bought his records.

 

[ynnafymmi]

One a world statesman,another a English pop singer,sandy.

[sandyRoe]

Stalin and Hitler were once world statesmen.

I don't suppose there were many genuine tears shed over them.

[Togo]

//being born in a cupboard doesn't make you a  china plate.//

Funny old World. All those knife nutters who were born in UK despite having parents from all sorts of places are automatically British or better still English. If anyone dare call them Pakistani, or Albanian, or Nigerian, or West Indian there are howls of protest along he lines that they were born here so it is no contest. However if   ...   I bet you could fill the rest is yourselves! 

[jourdain2]

1st item on this evening's news was this singer.  I don't particularly like the Pogues, but he is important to some (obviously) so that's not a problem.

What is a problem is that others of far more influence on everyone's lives, i.e. Kissinger and  Darling, are relegated.

Horrible proof that Brave New World is in operation in the UK methinks.

[ynnafymmi]

Apart from you perhaps sandy?

[DTCwordfan]

jourdain - wait until Barbie pops her clogs!

[ynnafymmi]

Now,now,Togo and jourdain,i got answers removed earlier on for stating that McGowan was English.God knows why.

[AnOtherMod]

I did not remove your posts just because you said that Shane MacGowan was English - the posts were removed because you were trying to start a fight by pushing your own agenda on an otherwise harmless RiP thread.

By all means rant away here to your hearts content - but any more personal jibes like the one at sandyRoe at 20:40 will be dealt with as appropriate. 

[sandyRoe]

I don't like to see any posts removed.

AB is a broad church and there's room for all opinions.

[Togo]

That was one of the reasons why I avoided the thread Fanny. McGowan was certainly more relevant in my day to day life. I have brothers who were real punk rock stock and sometimes had to go along for the ride. The Pogues were in their playlists and I still remember the bar ringing out with Fairytale at Christmas in 1987. I am sorry for his wife and children. It happens. The band was originally called Pogue Mahones( póg mo thóin) but had to change their name after a threat of civil action from a group of Scottish Gaelic speakers and pressure from the BBC. They are now hailing McGowan as a folk hero of course. 

[ynnafymmi]

Thanks for your reply mod.May i suggest you have a close look at Untitleds post at 07.36.

[sandyRoe]

Isn't that Gaelic for:'Kiss my ar*e'?

[bednobs]

i would struggle to say who kissengerwas/what he did.

i  do however know the pogues