Power Over Peace

[royfromaus]

Hamas, Islamic Jihad reject Gaza gov. overhaul for permanent ceasefire, Egyptian sources say | Reuters

Off to find phone, links on comp not working..

 

 

[royfromaus]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-islamic-jihad-reject-giving-up-power-return-permanent-ceasefire-egyptian-2023-12-25/#:~:text=overhaul%20for%20permanent%20ceasefire%2C%20Egyptian%20sources%20say,-By%20Ahmed%20Mohamed&text=CAIRO%2C%20Dec%2025%20(Reuters),sources%20told%20Reuters%20on%20Monday.

[jourdain2]

Sad, but predictable.  To end the killing all Hamas has had to do is to release the hostages in return for a ceasefire and time for negotiations to begin.

They are not interested and  they do not care. Somewhere in their brains they have probably equated a Muslim death as a valued and willing martyr - so it doesn't  matter. 

I admit  to not having read all thelink and will do so now, but it is par for their course.  If wrong, I apologise.

[jourdain2]

Read it - it's what I thought.

[Peter Pedant]

More dead in Gaza, killed if we are to believe TTT, by other Arabs far far away

[Peter Pedant]

Somewhere in their brains they have probably equated a Muslim death as a valued 

and others, somewhere in THEIR brains they have probably equated a Muslim death of a child as completely valueless 

[Deskdiary]

"There can be no negotiation without a complete stop to the the aggresssion" says a member of the Hamas political bureau. 

It's an undeniable truth, that I have no doubt the likes of sandyRoe will not agree with, that the aggressor was Hamas.

Are they so deluded that they think normal thinking people will believe they weren't the aggressors and somehow they are the victims?

Unfortunately the useful idiots who attend the anti-Jew marches will most definitely believe the Hamas propaganda.

[Peter Pedant]

that I have no doubt the likes of sandyRoe will not agree with,

a dead baby does not agree not disagree with sandyRoe and that is a fact !

My own suspicion is that Netanyahu knows he will lose power if he negotiates without total victory ( = everyone in Gaza dead) - and so  he goes  on bombin and killing

which strikes me as a very bad reason to continue the slaughter.

but hey who am I to say?

[sandyRoe]

I haven't read the contents of the link yet but I'd briefly like to say it's absurdly reductive to say the events in Palestine started on Oct 7th.  The events that led to the Hamas operation are to be found in the blood stained history of Israel.

[royfromaus]

You choose a time in history that suits, sandy

 

Whys that is open to debate.

[naomi24]

//it's absurdly reductive to say the events in Palestine started on Oct 7th. //

 

No it isn't.  What's happening right now did start on October 7th.  

[Peter Pedant]

No it isn't.  What's happening right now did start on October 7th.  

nope. internally  inconsistent  - now is 26th Dec NOT 7th  Oct. And yeah displacement of Arabs under order started 1948 - everyone knows that dont they?

and  that History one liner - choose whichever event in history

surely - the only lesson from history is that there are no lessons from history ( Frenchie I dont know which one)

[naomi24]

^Good grief!