He Might Not Have Done It? Right Oh!

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bradford-west-yorkshire-68767898

He was already on bail for assault and threatening to kill her! Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs. I hope the apologists are having a little iternal review.

Why was he on bail? Why wasn't the scum in the slammer? I think we know, once again someone dies because we are petrified of offending muslims. Madness.

[ToraToraTora]

"If Islam commanded its followers to destroy all infidels, and they all obeyed, you and I would not be sitting here exchanging views today - we would be dead." - err no, they would.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // AH: "The people who carried out these attrocities are not doing so because they are Muslims, they are doing so because they are deranged psychopaths, who like to use their advised beliefs as an excuse for their murderous behaviour." - finally we are getting somewhere. ... //

No, it is you who is 'finally getting somewhere'!

I have been presenting this argument on this site for decades, and you have always resisted it, and now you are in agreement!

// You accept that Hamas, ISIS, Al qaeda etc are "deranged psychopaths", that's a relief. //

Of course I do, I have never ever argued any diffrerently.

This is not me suddenly seeing the light, it is you accepting my point, at last.

// Now what about the people who lynched a woman on the say so of some pedlar who had annoyed her? They were just ordinary muslims going about their business yet they were very easily turned into a murderous mob. //

Yes - but because that's how mobs work.

They are not required to be Muslims to do that - just adopting mob mentality, which happens the world over when the circumstances create it.

Self-rigtheousness is an inherent charactaristic in a large number of people - and a mob situation brings it to the fore simultaneously with very little provocation.

 

[ToraToraTora]

AH: "There are more than enough Muslims in the world to wipe out any infidels, it simply needs them all to be on board with the extremist interpretations of the Koran.", err no there are a lot more non muslims. If they started that nonsense they'd get wiped out first.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // "If Islam commanded its followers to destroy all infidels, and they all obeyed, you and I would not be sitting here exchanging views today - we would be dead." - err no, they would. //

That makes no sense.

If every adult Muslim in the world set about mudering every infidel, how would they 'be dead'?

[Mozz71]

12:27.

No. I don't see many bishops on tv condemning the murder of someone by white folk either. Because it's nothing to do with them.

[Mozz71]

//If every adult Muslim in the world set about mudering every infidel, how would they 'be dead'?//

 

Because we have Tora on our team and he's a bit tasty innit.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // If they started that nonsense they'd get wiped out first. //

That means that for every Muslim with the fire to murder infidels, there must be an opposite, greater number of non-Muslims who will murder them instead.

Maybe in the video game of your mind TTT - but here on planet Earth, the majority of the population don't actually like violence and don't go around killing strangers - Muslim or not.

[ToraToraTora]

AH: "I have been presenting this argument on this site for decades, and you have always resisted it, and now you are in agreement!" - I have never denied that most muslims are not extremists but like the Germans in WWII they permit the nutters to operate. If they put their house in order I'd have a lot more sympathy. As it stands they give the impression that they at least tacitly support their extremist counterparts.

[ToraToraTora]

AH: "That means that for every Muslim with the fire to murder infidels, there must be an opposite, greater number of non-Muslims who will murder them instead." - no it means that the non muslim world would quickly wake up to the threat and deal with it out of necessity not because they want to, they'd have to.

[Mozz71]

12:46. And like the Germans during WWII and the Russians in present day, any attempts to "put their house in order" sees those responsible disappear.

[ToraToraTora]

"Maybe in the video game of your mind TTT - but here on planet Earth, the majority of the population don't actually like violence and don't go around killing strangers - Muslim or not." - yes but if the world knoew that muslims were hunting them they'd very quickly react accordingly. That's human nature.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // yes but if the world knoew that muslims were hunting them they'd very quickly react accordingly. That's human nature. //

You need to cancel that 'Soldier Of Fortune' subscription, it's making you see the world as a fantasy war game, not as it actually is.

[ToraToraTora]

So you think that when it become known that all muslims are going to kill us on sight that the rest of the world would not react in any way? Right oh!

[naomi24]

The rest of the world are infidels too,  There's some truly wonky thinking going on here and that results from a profound ignorance of Islam.  

[douglas9401]

Hard going again today.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - You are invoking the So Rule again, worrying. 

[davebro3]

getting a little ridiculous - close the topic?

[Modster]

For clarity, I removed SparklyKid's post for being simply rude & adding nothing of value to the discussion.

[SparklyKid]

so, there you have it.