They Just Can't Help It Can They

[gulliver1]

First we had Boris Lying every time the mouth opened.  Now we have Sunak keeping up the Tory Lies. As Sunak Blatantly  tells voters that households would be hit with a £2,000 pa extra tax bill.Amounting to a £38  billion tax hit.If they vote LABOUR. And now Sunak has to Apologise Because it was another Tory lie .How desperate this lot are.

[gulliver1]

C'mon Naomi ,do you believe Tory lies or do you Not believe  Tory Lies.

[newmodarmy]

Have you got a link to Sunaks apology. As surely you weren't lying when you said he had? 

Someone tells what seems to be a lie claiming someone has apologised for telling a lie. Do you see the issue? 

 

[Ellipsis]

"And now Sunak has to Apologise", not "And now Sunak has Apologised" 🙄

[gulliver1]

Sir Keir Starmer has now accused Sunak of deliberately  lying when he claimed Labours spending plans would increase taxes by £2,000. Saying the Prime ministers tactics during tuesday night's TV debate showed Sunak was prepared to be dishonest when put under pressure......All Tories are dishonest.

[gulliver1]

What you saw last night was a prime minister with his back against the wall trying desperately to defend an awful rcord in office for himself and his chums by resorting to lies. Which is the Norm for the Tory Party.

 

 

[Ellipsis]

> Sunak was prepared to be dishonest when put under pressure

No, you give him too much credit. He agreed the trumped up figure before the debate, not in the heat of the moment ...

[ToraToraTora]

so, it seems no one really knows what a porky is then? Right oh!

[gulliver1]

Another lie Sunak and his Cons keep repeating is that they have reduced the number of boat people crossing the channel .When in fact that number has increased significantly

[Spungle]

How are Labour going to pay for all the stuff without taxing us all through the nose?  We know Labour, they've got form.

[Stableford]

We'll see who the liar is when Labour slam every single worker in this country with higher taxes like they do every single time they get elected while benefit scroungers, criminals and illegal immigrants get off scot free.

[newmodarmy]

Sunak doesn't have to apolgise and he won't. His figures include some questionable assumptions but the figures, the basis and assumptions are available and people can make their own mind up.  It's similar to the Brexit red bus figure and the Labour 2019 claims that Tories planned to privatise the NHS. People take all claims with a pinch of salt and make their own mind up.

[gulliver1]

This is how Sunak and his desperate MPs lie to the Public. After saying that he had reduced the channel crossings and he had got small boat arrivals down.      On the very day of the TV Debate 234 migrants had landed just hours before the debate started.Making the total crossings this year alone 10,745 compared with 7,610 the same time last year.So please tell me  Mr Sunak and your Fellow Cons.  How have you reduced these figures.?

[newmodarmy]

That;s not necessarily a lie. Putting aside the fact that he's been useless on this and Labour have no ideas either, you don't know what figure he's comparing with. They will be down compared to , as Sunak says, when they were higher. All politicians of all parties will cherry pick figures. 

[gulliver1]

Seems to me that this Tory PM and his fellow MPs who were educated in Private schools, Eton etc Did not attend many of the Maths lessons.

[gulliver1]

Nma 08.36 ......."That's not necessarily a lie".........            ....Well it ain't the Yucking truth is it .?

[newmodarmy]

Sir Keir went to a fee paying school (although he didnt pay), as did some other shadow cabinet misisters, so no doubt you think his maths won't be up to it either

[newmodarmy]

Of course it's the truth if he can find a period in which they were higher. Please think before posting

[gulliver1]

NMA 08 .36. What a load of wiff waff you talk .As you leap out to defend the Brotherhood.  Even  you are twisting the figures,to defend them to the end.

[gulliver1]

NMA 08.47 It's not an untruth. It's an outright Lie and well you know it.