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I have traditionally been in favour of capital punishment though I sometimes waver. Those against it often do impress me with their reasoning and I get persuaded that maybe the state should never execute it's own citizens. Then a case like this comes along and I start to think that sometimes there are such depraved humans that it's a case of disposal of a pathogen rather than execution. No doubt AH will tell me that it's emotive and we should ignore the circumstances. Your Thoughts......
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.//Would the pro hanging lobby be content with the thought that occasionally an innocent might be executed if they could see lots of the guilty strung up?//
Yes - if 1 innocent was executed for every 99 guilty I would consider that acceptable (it would be far fewer though).
And - before you ask - even if the "innocent" was me!
Your post nailed it to save people trawling through:
//Who decides who gets to live and who get the rope?
Is it a one size fits all regardless of circumstances? That if you take a life you forfeit yours?
Having served time alongside murderers, one case sticks in my memory. I was in Walton prison at the time. This guy was a double murderer. He was abused by a paedophile ring as a child and later on in life he found out where 2 of them lived and killed them. He was such an unasuming , mild mannered bloke but his head was a mess. He was awaiting to transfer to Ashworth mental hospital.
Would anyone give a man like this the rope?
Personally I would have given him a medal.//
I don't think ANYONE here is advocating capital punishment for ALL murders - in my scenario a jury would decide jail or the the rope with a judges advice.
My final word on this thread - Wayne Couzens - yeah or nay?
naomi - // I would say extentuating circumstances must be considered. In your friend's case, that would apply. There's no way his crime resembles those I mentioned earlier - the killer of Lee Rigby, Ian Huntley and the Wests. //
But fortunately, we don't need to waste valuable time and money, not to say causing stress by making people make decisions they may regret forever - because as it stands, we don't kill people, so why go looking for a more complex solution?
Unless of course, the overriding impetous towards supporting capital punishment remains - a primal need for revenge and moral satisfaction.
naomi - at 13.09, you posted this -
// But 'regardless of crime' isn't part of the argument and never has been. //
And at 13.29, you posted this -
// I would say extentuating circumstances must be considered. In your friend's case, that would apply. There's no way his crime resembles those I mentioned earlier - the killer of Lee Rigby, Ian Huntley and the Wests. //
So one contradicts the other.
Care to pick a lane?
naomi - //
andy-hughes, //the overriding impetous towards supporting capital punishment remains - a primal need for revenge and moral satisfaction.//
I've explained my reasoning - and that, as you will see if you take the time to read it, isn't it. //
I was not referring to your stance specifically - indeed having debated this issue with you several times, I know your argument to be more reasoned and thought out than the standard knee-jerk "I'll do it!!!" positions of the majority of posters on this thread - and others of its type.
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