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A Muslim school uses a Saudi textbook that says Jews are Monkeys and Christians are Pigs. They are not prosecuted and the Headmistress says they have done nothing wrong. What if it had been Muslims being insulted do you think ?
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But the Saudis are our ally. Bush is such big mates with the Royals that he is almost family. So what if they have an appauling human rights record. So what that they export their extreme wahabi faith that the Taliban and al-qaeda follow. Just unlucky that 15 of the 9/11 attackers were Saudis.
Stop moan, they can put anything they like in their schoolbooks because they sell us cheap oil.
Stop moan, they can put anything they like in their schoolbooks because they sell us cheap oil.
Even a lily-livered liberal like myself can find no justification for the presence of such books in a school, even if said book is no longer part of the curriculum. It does seem to be an incitement to hatred, be it racial or religious, and in the interest of better community relations, the books should be removed immediately. A public burning might be a little extreme, but they ought to be recycled, like all rubbish.
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craigiep posted a question about this story a few days ago.
At the time it seemed that the bloke accusing the school may have had ulterior motives (he'd just been sacked and his daughter still goes to the school.
Now that the full story has come out, I feel really angry with the school's headmistress. She's played right into the Islamaphobe's hands, and didn't even have the good grace to look sincerely apologetic on telly.
No, those books have no place in any Islamic school and those sentiments have no place in the minds of children. Absolutely disgraceful.
Schools should be working towards integrating communities, not handing the 'phobes a gun to shoot them with.
Infuriating.
At the time it seemed that the bloke accusing the school may have had ulterior motives (he'd just been sacked and his daughter still goes to the school.
Now that the full story has come out, I feel really angry with the school's headmistress. She's played right into the Islamaphobe's hands, and didn't even have the good grace to look sincerely apologetic on telly.
No, those books have no place in any Islamic school and those sentiments have no place in the minds of children. Absolutely disgraceful.
Schools should be working towards integrating communities, not handing the 'phobes a gun to shoot them with.
Infuriating.
brionon
In answer to your question, Muslims would rightly protest. The reason that (especially) Christians don't protest is because in this country...ermm...there aren't many of them.
Do a straw poll in your office.
I don't know a single church-goer, or indeed, anyone who professes to lead their lives by Christian values.
We've lost our way in a sea of alcopops, reality shows and nude women in our newspapers.
Blimey, I've turned into my father!
In answer to your question, Muslims would rightly protest. The reason that (especially) Christians don't protest is because in this country...ermm...there aren't many of them.
Do a straw poll in your office.
I don't know a single church-goer, or indeed, anyone who professes to lead their lives by Christian values.
We've lost our way in a sea of alcopops, reality shows and nude women in our newspapers.
Blimey, I've turned into my father!
'You don't know anyone that professes to lead their lives by christian values'. sp1814? you must work in one Hell of a disruptive office and your acquaintances can't be very nice people to know.
You do not have to go to a man made building of worship, to take on board certain Christian morality values and conduct one's self in a proper manner and to know right from wrong.
These are basic Christian values that have been proven to be the very bed-rock of society and the proper way to conduct one's life and have been over the generations in our country.
You do not have to go to a man made building of worship, to take on board certain Christian morality values and conduct one's self in a proper manner and to know right from wrong.
These are basic Christian values that have been proven to be the very bed-rock of society and the proper way to conduct one's life and have been over the generations in our country.
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Islam
What's it all about?
It�s big and it's simple. Big, with over 800 million believers at the start of the 21st century. And simple, there is only one God - and the believers better believe it.
It is accepted that the name Allah is a derivation of al- ilah which means 'the god' and it was Allah who, six hundred years after the crucifixion of the previous Son Of God, tried again to get his message across with the 'True Prophet' Muhammad.
This time Allah delegated the Angel Gabriel (aka Jibril) to have a good long talk with Muhammad about how earthly man should behave, and for the next twenty years Muhammad became the happy recipient of Allah�s view of the perfect man. Muhammad, like any good prophet, passed on the revelations to anyone else willing to listen and as he got the message some six hundred years after Jesus he is, say the Muslims, the last and greatest of the prophets - the True Messenger of God.
And the message, in a word, is submission.
Any similarity or reference to Zoroastrianism and the good versus evil arguments are purely co-incidental and denied. They may exist - but they are denied.
What's it all about?
It�s big and it's simple. Big, with over 800 million believers at the start of the 21st century. And simple, there is only one God - and the believers better believe it.
It is accepted that the name Allah is a derivation of al- ilah which means 'the god' and it was Allah who, six hundred years after the crucifixion of the previous Son Of God, tried again to get his message across with the 'True Prophet' Muhammad.
This time Allah delegated the Angel Gabriel (aka Jibril) to have a good long talk with Muhammad about how earthly man should behave, and for the next twenty years Muhammad became the happy recipient of Allah�s view of the perfect man. Muhammad, like any good prophet, passed on the revelations to anyone else willing to listen and as he got the message some six hundred years after Jesus he is, say the Muslims, the last and greatest of the prophets - the True Messenger of God.
And the message, in a word, is submission.
Any similarity or reference to Zoroastrianism and the good versus evil arguments are purely co-incidental and denied. They may exist - but they are denied.
Not all Muslems are the same just as not all christians are the same. A sunday school teacher and someone who shoots doctors because they work in an abortion clinic may both regard themselves as christians, but one is more fanatical than the other. Most Muslems are the same as you and me. However, there is a branch of Islam called wahhabism which eminates from Saudi Arabia which can only be regared as fanatical. The Taliban and al-qaeda are followers and it is these same people who publish the text books used in the London school.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahabism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahabism
A better reference on wahhabism
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/ saudi/analyses/wahhabism.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/ saudi/analyses/wahhabism.html
AOG
Honest...I absolutely don't know any Christians.
I know plenty of good people whom I would turn to in a crisis.
I know plenty of people who wouldn't cheat, steal or use profanities...
...but that ain't Christian.
That's just as sign of being well brought up.
I literally know no-one who goes to church.
The only people I know who regularly attend a house of religion are Muslims and Hindus.
Honest...I absolutely don't know any Christians.
I know plenty of good people whom I would turn to in a crisis.
I know plenty of people who wouldn't cheat, steal or use profanities...
...but that ain't Christian.
That's just as sign of being well brought up.
I literally know no-one who goes to church.
The only people I know who regularly attend a house of religion are Muslims and Hindus.
I assumed maybe wrongly, that whatever faith you were baptised into, is your religion. If you don't spend a second in church or do anything decent in your life, does not make you a 'non-denominational' person.
I work with 5 women, who would all call themselves Christian, even though they do all the stuff that 19 yrs old women seem to do these days .I would also call myself a christian, although I have my own belief system very different to the christian one, as I was baptised C of E... that is what I am, unless I intentionally 'swap' to a differing religion.
I work with 5 women, who would all call themselves Christian, even though they do all the stuff that 19 yrs old women seem to do these days .I would also call myself a christian, although I have my own belief system very different to the christian one, as I was baptised C of E... that is what I am, unless I intentionally 'swap' to a differing religion.
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