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UK Toddler abducted....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestersh ire/6623127.stm
I dont feel sorry for the parents. I feel sorry for the child. Who in their right mind would leave such a young child on their own in a hotel, regardless of checking on them every 30 mins.
in minutess you could die from smoke inhalation, it takes seconds for as child to eat or drink something poisonous, seconds for them to hurt themselves, cut themselevs and bleed to death in 30 mins.
I think it's outragious. Why leave the child in the room, while you have dinner. terrible. I have no sympathy. Poor child.
I dont feel sorry for the parents. I feel sorry for the child. Who in their right mind would leave such a young child on their own in a hotel, regardless of checking on them every 30 mins.
in minutess you could die from smoke inhalation, it takes seconds for as child to eat or drink something poisonous, seconds for them to hurt themselves, cut themselevs and bleed to death in 30 mins.
I think it's outragious. Why leave the child in the room, while you have dinner. terrible. I have no sympathy. Poor child.
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Hmmm, i get your way of thinking.
Dont leave a bag in sight in a car, dont leave any windows open at home, dont use a mobile phone when there are other people around, dont walk home alone at night, dont take your eyes off your kids for one minute.
Why do people always have to amend their ways of life to accomodate the offender.
I am only 32, but i remember being able to play out at night when i was younger and not worry about being approached. I was in more trouble if i crossed the road.
If people were more strict with offenders then it would be a deterrent for future 'would be' offenders. I understand that nothing can be done about these people now, but the future can be mapped to prevent anything like this happening in future...
Dont leave a bag in sight in a car, dont leave any windows open at home, dont use a mobile phone when there are other people around, dont walk home alone at night, dont take your eyes off your kids for one minute.
Why do people always have to amend their ways of life to accomodate the offender.
I am only 32, but i remember being able to play out at night when i was younger and not worry about being approached. I was in more trouble if i crossed the road.
If people were more strict with offenders then it would be a deterrent for future 'would be' offenders. I understand that nothing can be done about these people now, but the future can be mapped to prevent anything like this happening in future...
A truly sad case and I know we're all hoping for a happy, safe outcome.
I'm clearly not the only one who has grave concerns for how three very young children were left alone whilst their parents dined out. I speak not as a mother but as an aunt and I accept that no child could or should ever be kept under obs 24 hours a day.
However...there is a chance that the person who took the little one had been waiting for weeks, months, for such an opportunity. Perhaps their apartment provided a vantage point over the holiday area and they had identified the weak spots that could exist. All they needed was less than diligent parents and the plan comes to fruition. Two parents who go out to a restaurant leaving their children unguarded in their hotel rooms must be like manna from heaven for a potential abductor. So the parents were checking on them every half hour? If those parents lived on benefits the press would
1) Ask why they could afford a foreign holiday and restaurant meals but no babysitting service
2) just crucify the parents, full stop.
Although this is no time for police/social services to be instilling guilt in the parents, when - I say when, not if - the child returns safe and well, I would expect the mother and father to face the same scrutiny and possible reprimands other parents would face.
I'm clearly not the only one who has grave concerns for how three very young children were left alone whilst their parents dined out. I speak not as a mother but as an aunt and I accept that no child could or should ever be kept under obs 24 hours a day.
However...there is a chance that the person who took the little one had been waiting for weeks, months, for such an opportunity. Perhaps their apartment provided a vantage point over the holiday area and they had identified the weak spots that could exist. All they needed was less than diligent parents and the plan comes to fruition. Two parents who go out to a restaurant leaving their children unguarded in their hotel rooms must be like manna from heaven for a potential abductor. So the parents were checking on them every half hour? If those parents lived on benefits the press would
1) Ask why they could afford a foreign holiday and restaurant meals but no babysitting service
2) just crucify the parents, full stop.
Although this is no time for police/social services to be instilling guilt in the parents, when - I say when, not if - the child returns safe and well, I would expect the mother and father to face the same scrutiny and possible reprimands other parents would face.
ONEYEDVIC:
Do you think it terrible if someone puts their girl in a bedroom and then sits it the back garden? - because that is the equivalent.
ME: No. In a busy complex, the equivalent is putting your child to bed whilst every other room in the house, plus the neighbouring houses and gardens, are full of drink-fuelled strangers whose characters you have no idea about.
Do you think it terrible if someone puts their girl in a bedroom and then sits it the back garden? - because that is the equivalent.
ME: No. In a busy complex, the equivalent is putting your child to bed whilst every other room in the house, plus the neighbouring houses and gardens, are full of drink-fuelled strangers whose characters you have no idea about.
Correct me if I'm wrong. A lot of hotels offer a baby monitoring service. This is where the reception holds an open line to the room to listen out for a baby / child crying.
Do most people deem this to be acceptable?
A quick google search shows that Thomson (I believe the UKs most used package holiday provider) offers them in a lot of their hotels.
Is there that much of a difference? Surely if you use a baby listening service, it could conceivably be half an hour by the time that reception have registered a problem, found you whereever and then you have got back to your room?
Do most people deem this to be acceptable?
A quick google search shows that Thomson (I believe the UKs most used package holiday provider) offers them in a lot of their hotels.
Is there that much of a difference? Surely if you use a baby listening service, it could conceivably be half an hour by the time that reception have registered a problem, found you whereever and then you have got back to your room?
nikkib - you forgot - locked room most people (myself included) see a locked door and (rightly or wrongly) see that as impenetrable.
Lets not forget that the room was broken into!
So to me it is the equivalent of being in a garden with your daughter locked in the house where you don't know your next door neighbours.
In this case the neighbours (or even passers by) broke into the house (room) and kidnapped the child.
Lets not forget that the room was broken into!
So to me it is the equivalent of being in a garden with your daughter locked in the house where you don't know your next door neighbours.
In this case the neighbours (or even passers by) broke into the house (room) and kidnapped the child.
Just read the Daily Mail webpage for yesterday when the McCans went to Mass, as it was Mothers Day, all the children gave their mothers bunches of flowers and a little altar girl gave hers to Mrs McCan, who then laid them at the feet of the Virgin Mary. I find that so touching. Please let Maddie be safe and returned to her family soon soon soon.
but your garden would be right outside the building, your children wouldnt be locked in, you would more than likely have your table on a patio right outside your house, with enterances you cant see locked the ones you can see wide open, and a listening device in use. Or maybe thats just me? I dont know!
Its too late now to blame anyone. The parents must be beside themselves with guilt. But both doctors, professional people, I cant understand why they would just leave them. 3 tiny children. And why did the abductor target just Madeleine?
To have your child taken away, like that, is any parents absolute worst nightmare. I can only hope that she was taken by a person, who wants a child to love, and not some filthy sick pervert who will hurt her. I hope she is found soon safe. And reunited with her parents who must be going through hell.
To have your child taken away, like that, is any parents absolute worst nightmare. I can only hope that she was taken by a person, who wants a child to love, and not some filthy sick pervert who will hurt her. I hope she is found soon safe. And reunited with her parents who must be going through hell.
Guilty of bad judgement maybe, but what a devasating thing to happen to any family! The family had been there for a week, so maybe they had gotten a feel for the place and thought it would be perfectly safe to leave their children, especially if other parents were leaving their children also! My brother stayed in a similar place in Portugal with his children and said that they were lulled into a sense of safety because of the level of security within the complex....electronic gates etc! I hope that the wee one is found safe and well and in the tragic event that she is not, then no doubt her parents will have to live with their grief and guilt for the rest of their lives....and the knowledge that many people will be condemming them! I personally feel nothing but sorrow for all of them!
I am so angry about this. I wouldn't leave my 13 year old on her own in a different country let alone a 3 year old and her twin brother and sister. Aren't these parents doctors and should know better? I hope the child is found unharmed for the sake of the little girl. I personally think the children should be taken off the parents and be given to a loving family who wuold actually look after them,. Rant over!!
Completely agree with Spanner.
I feel for the little girl & i hope she is found safe & well.
I have no sympathy for the parents though, how can anyone justify leaving two 2 year olds & a 3 year old alone in a room in a strange country! I think it's disgusting. If they didn't want to have the kids with them then don't take them or don't have kids!
I feel for the little girl & i hope she is found safe & well.
I have no sympathy for the parents though, how can anyone justify leaving two 2 year olds & a 3 year old alone in a room in a strange country! I think it's disgusting. If they didn't want to have the kids with them then don't take them or don't have kids!
You people who say "I have no sympathy for these parents" absolutely disgust me. Whats wrong with all you finger pointers? Its very easy for you to say all this stuff "I would never ever do this and I would never ever do that" but words are cheap and I dont believe for one minute that none of you have in hindsight regretted a decision or judgement youve made with regards to child care. Many people have been in the same situation as these parents in Portugal and have judged it to be safe. I have, my family have and I have been in the company of many people in similar situations that have made the same decision as they did. Do you not think that its heartbreaking enough for the parents without being judged by people who really know very little about the full picture. If you can't be sympathetic to these poor parents then keep your negative opinions to yourselves.
I have always maintained my sympathy for the parents and the awful time they are going through. But with a little bit of foresight this wouldn't have happened, I was a teacher and foster parent and I was always careful, yes I let them run free to gain independance but always accessed the situation first. Some accidents cannot be avoided, but this certainly could have been. But I would never have left underaged minors, not for one minute even here on this little island.
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