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Anyone else glad Blair's *finally* gone??? If so stick your name and optional dig at him here!
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But that foul Cherie is letting extremists stay in the UK. Take her eyes and eyes will be saved in decent British citizens.
I have no objections to her leading a disabling life a terror free life of millions.
I know it sounds harsh, but I will not back down on wishing her and camp Tony my worse wishes possible.
But that foul Cherie is letting extremists stay in the UK. Take her eyes and eyes will be saved in decent British citizens.
I have no objections to her leading a disabling life a terror free life of millions.
I know it sounds harsh, but I will not back down on wishing her and camp Tony my worse wishes possible.
Fairkatrina, apologies for the deviation.
Jake, since the beginning of the troubles there have been 6 Prime Ministers (Harold Wilson twice), the terrorist attacks on civilian and so called 'legitimate' targets have reduced over the more recent years until 1997 (sorry don't have figures to hand), would it not be fair to say, taking this into consideration that Tony Blair was the best placed Prime Minister to broker such a 'peace' as the time was right. That is not to suggest that Margaret Thatcher would have done the same had she been in power, probably not, more to suggest that Tony Blair was the right person, at the right time in this instance, would he have brokered such a deal had he been elected in say 1973?
Jake, since the beginning of the troubles there have been 6 Prime Ministers (Harold Wilson twice), the terrorist attacks on civilian and so called 'legitimate' targets have reduced over the more recent years until 1997 (sorry don't have figures to hand), would it not be fair to say, taking this into consideration that Tony Blair was the best placed Prime Minister to broker such a 'peace' as the time was right. That is not to suggest that Margaret Thatcher would have done the same had she been in power, probably not, more to suggest that Tony Blair was the right person, at the right time in this instance, would he have brokered such a deal had he been elected in say 1973?
Joe - I feel exactly the same about this awful woman's trap & her old man's, but they're out of office now, so hopefully neither of them will be in our faces quite as much! Please God!
warpig - Hear, hear, - the time was right!
fiest - I've been enjoying the sunshine & feathery birds too!
gina - I agree with you. You can't please all of the people all of the time! Besides, politics causes arguments - or should I say debates! ;o}
warpig - Hear, hear, - the time was right!
fiest - I've been enjoying the sunshine & feathery birds too!
gina - I agree with you. You can't please all of the people all of the time! Besides, politics causes arguments - or should I say debates! ;o}
Thing is, warpig, we'll never know. And you could say the same for every political development and every politician.
We slag off Blair for leading us into Iraq and rightly so. We don't lay off him and give him an easier ride on the grounds that Thatcher would probably have done the same, has she been in power at the time.
As a politician, you're judged on the circumstances of your time and the way that you react to them. That's just the way it is, until we can electronically profile each PM's attributes and feed the data into some SimulataCrisis machine.
For what it's worth, Paisley said that Blair devoted more time to Northern Ireland than his predeccessors. He also said, "There is no doubt, however, that the Prime Minister's concerted efforts helped in ultimately securing devolution in Northern Ireland."
Gerry Adams said Blair "made a significant and crucial contribution to the Irish peace process. The Good Friday Agreement and the restoration of the political institutions would not have been possible without him."
And no-one is suggesting that Blair single-handedly sorted the NI problem. But he deserves credit for it, in the same way he'd deserve to be judged harshly if Mowlam had f*cked it all up.
But let's let the annoying smile get in the way of all that.
We slag off Blair for leading us into Iraq and rightly so. We don't lay off him and give him an easier ride on the grounds that Thatcher would probably have done the same, has she been in power at the time.
As a politician, you're judged on the circumstances of your time and the way that you react to them. That's just the way it is, until we can electronically profile each PM's attributes and feed the data into some SimulataCrisis machine.
For what it's worth, Paisley said that Blair devoted more time to Northern Ireland than his predeccessors. He also said, "There is no doubt, however, that the Prime Minister's concerted efforts helped in ultimately securing devolution in Northern Ireland."
Gerry Adams said Blair "made a significant and crucial contribution to the Irish peace process. The Good Friday Agreement and the restoration of the political institutions would not have been possible without him."
And no-one is suggesting that Blair single-handedly sorted the NI problem. But he deserves credit for it, in the same way he'd deserve to be judged harshly if Mowlam had f*cked it all up.
But let's let the annoying smile get in the way of all that.
What's there to be glad about?
I don't mean to sound grumpy (but I will). Tony Blair was the front man, we still have the same party.
We'll still be at war with Iraq, the health service will still be in crisis and there's no dramatic difference between yesterday and today as far as I can see... and we still have no particulary decent opposing party!
That said, I remember how much hope I had when this goverment was elected. The whole country was elated (well, 'cept the ones that didn't vote for 'em). When he first came in I'm sure he wanted to do a good job.
He did help bring peace to Northern Ireland. That was a good thing.
At the moment I don't 'feel' anything about it because I've no idea that much is likely to change in the near future... That said, hopefully Brown will make me eat my words. (If he already has don't ruin it for me, I've not read the paper today).
I don't mean to sound grumpy (but I will). Tony Blair was the front man, we still have the same party.
We'll still be at war with Iraq, the health service will still be in crisis and there's no dramatic difference between yesterday and today as far as I can see... and we still have no particulary decent opposing party!
That said, I remember how much hope I had when this goverment was elected. The whole country was elated (well, 'cept the ones that didn't vote for 'em). When he first came in I'm sure he wanted to do a good job.
He did help bring peace to Northern Ireland. That was a good thing.
At the moment I don't 'feel' anything about it because I've no idea that much is likely to change in the near future... That said, hopefully Brown will make me eat my words. (If he already has don't ruin it for me, I've not read the paper today).
It's thanks to Cherie Blair that I can sometimes see Wardy's point of view regarding women in the workplace.
I bet there has been many a time that Tony has told her to keep her big gob shut (to no avail, sadly).
I am more pleased to see her go than I am him. And that is something huge for me to admit. Unfortunately we haven't sen the last of her though, the big career woman that she is.
I bet there has been many a time that Tony has told her to keep her big gob shut (to no avail, sadly).
I am more pleased to see her go than I am him. And that is something huge for me to admit. Unfortunately we haven't sen the last of her though, the big career woman that she is.
NJOK - your very first post read:
"See ya Tone - You really should have known when to go, you grinning wally!" etc.
Although I expect that was meant as tongue in cheek!
China Doll - to be honest, I don't feel anything either - it's too early to know what the future holds for any of us, but I do wish Gordon Brown & his family all the very best!
The Conservative party's a bit of a damp squib now, so I don't hold out much hope for them!
"See ya Tone - You really should have known when to go, you grinning wally!" etc.
Although I expect that was meant as tongue in cheek!
China Doll - to be honest, I don't feel anything either - it's too early to know what the future holds for any of us, but I do wish Gordon Brown & his family all the very best!
The Conservative party's a bit of a damp squib now, so I don't hold out much hope for them!
AOG, astonishingly I am not Cherie Blair. I am just fighting a rearguard action on a platform of loyalty, patriotism and honesty. I am sick to death of the 'Bliar' thing, there is no doubt in my mind anyway that whatever decisions TB took were made on the basis of what he believed to be the best available intelligence.
I wonder how many of these comfortable (and anonymous) armchair critics would be prepared to walk up to the man in private and openly call him a Liar.
I also wonder if these same critics, shipped back in time, would be screaming Liar at Thatcher over the Falklands or at Churchill over his wicked opposition to Nazism. No they'd deservedly be in the Tower of London, heads off in the morning.
I wonder how many of these comfortable (and anonymous) armchair critics would be prepared to walk up to the man in private and openly call him a Liar.
I also wonder if these same critics, shipped back in time, would be screaming Liar at Thatcher over the Falklands or at Churchill over his wicked opposition to Nazism. No they'd deservedly be in the Tower of London, heads off in the morning.
Ha, ha, ha! Hope you're not too offended whiffey, but I've just looked at a magazine I picked up in the hairdressers & someone's drawn an Adolf moustache on Cherie Blair & big ears on Tony! Not my doing!
P.S. Dunno about us lot going the Tower, but another quote in the paper this morning read:
Tony Blair should have been taken straight from the Commons by boat to Traitor's Gate!
(Renee Miller - Lowton, Cheshire)
P.S. Dunno about us lot going the Tower, but another quote in the paper this morning read:
Tony Blair should have been taken straight from the Commons by boat to Traitor's Gate!
(Renee Miller - Lowton, Cheshire)
Well smudge, the correspondent you quote is so typical of our age. Moan criticise moan, from the armchair of course.
Loyalty, patriotism, disappearing down the plughole. Endless fawning to politically correct mantras.
Never mind, I take a certain pleasure in being just about the only person on AB with a kind word for TB - and I didn't even vote for him.
I want to re-open the Tower of London, kick out the mainly foreign tourists, and re-introduce public beheadings. It's the incoming vogue after all.
Loyalty, patriotism, disappearing down the plughole. Endless fawning to politically correct mantras.
Never mind, I take a certain pleasure in being just about the only person on AB with a kind word for TB - and I didn't even vote for him.
I want to re-open the Tower of London, kick out the mainly foreign tourists, and re-introduce public beheadings. It's the incoming vogue after all.
Ah whiffey, I didn't mean to laugh - it's just that you mentioned the Nazi's & I'd just looked at the picture of Cherie with an Adolf moustache! You've got to admit it was a strange coincidence! Also Traitor's Gate!
As I said in an earlier post, I would never go as far as wishing either of them any physical harm & would have liked to have wished them both a very fond farewell, but I really can't stand either of them & I won't be a hypocrite, it's not in my nature!
As I said in an earlier post, I would never go as far as wishing either of them any physical harm & would have liked to have wished them both a very fond farewell, but I really can't stand either of them & I won't be a hypocrite, it's not in my nature!