Mark Speight : An Inspector Calls

[VorVZakone]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7350 087.stm

Times must have been very hard for this guy.

I wonder if anyone contributed to his death.

He had just lost his very close girlfriend in horrible circumstances and was immediately named a murder suspect. Was there enough cause for this? Just cos he was in the same flat? There is sometimes need for restraint, given what he has just undergone, and given the fact that there was obviously very little pointing to him as culprit: yet the police by default just haul him in. I bet he got a right grilling 'You're to blame, etc etc, be harsh on him and he'll confess'. I wonder if the police have some blood on their hands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Inspector_Call s

[vehelpfulguy]

Well none of us know the real background to what happened.

But one scenario could be that maybe his girlfriend had not taken drugs before he met her.

He then introduced her to drugs, not realising the tragic way it would turn out.

IF he introduced her to drugs, or maybe even encouraged her to take them, it would be very hard for him to live with that after she died.

I do find it pathetic that so many people feel the need to stuff things up their nose, or inject things in their arm, just for a "high".

What did Robin Williams say "Taking Cocaine is Gods way of saying you have too much money"

[VorVZakone]

"""The biggest contributory factor in this whole episode is the fact they were both class A drug users. I find it difficult to be unreservedly sympathetic. """
I'm sure a similar attitude was assumed by investigating officers, and this came across pretty clearly in the interview, ergo my premise.
The man is dead, a talented life wasted. Would you feel a bit sorrier about it if he'd been a clean living mormon?

[Booldawg]

I feel theres been alot of news coverage for someone who's fairly Z-list. He mustve been a BBC presenter ;-)

[Gromit]

Drugs are a quick way of avoiding reality
and suicide is a permanent way of avoiding reality.

[Quinlad]

I have no sympathy for anyone who has died (or lost a loved one) as a result of heart disease, lung cancer or liver failure.

They knew the risks of stuffing fatty foods, cigarettes or alcohol into their bodies - but did it anyway. Just for the cheap thrill of tipsiness, a nictoine rush or yummy food.

Pathetic. I find it difficult to be unreservedly sympathetic.

[Quinlad]

More of an abuser.

[Quinlad]

Seriously though, do withold sympathy when a 50-stone man dies in his thirties because of morbid obesity? Or is food alright?

[Mme Irony]

Quinlad, my father-in-law died of heart disease. He ate a sensible diet, exercised, was teetotal and never smoked in his life (well actually he admitted trying a few puffs when he was a teenager but didn't like it).

I have sympathy for the families of those who have died in whatever circumstances through whatever cause. Just because someone has a different standard to you does not mean they are any less of a human being nor any less loved by those around them.

[VorVZakone]

Highty stupid and bizarre reasoner myself then, I'm right behind Quinlan.
ps He was being sarcastic and hit the nail very squarely on the head there: you reserve sympathy on someone despite them being in a tragic situation which results in their suicide, as a result of a moral judgement you pass on them, a moral judgement on a lifestyle choice, when in fact most people are far from perfect and many are complicit in their own and others deaths: eg fatty food, parents who frequently take their kids to McDonalds, etc etc. Is it clear to you now just how poignant his remarks were? Do you *get it*?

[VorVZakone]

In fact: relates to my 'Inspector Calls' tie in pretty well. The girl in question was far from an angel, in fact she was socially spurned just because what she had done was deemed to be socially unacceptable by people who considered themselves 'holier than her' but who were in fact just as 'human' as the rest of us. Which led to the message of the play: we are all imperfect, and should shoulder the burden which comes from each others' weaknesses.

[Quinlad]

Well said.

But then this moral stone-throwing is the life-blood of AB. As evidenced in every thread about the McCanns, 'chavs' or minorities.

[Quinlad]

You don't feel like answering the question then? Do you withold sympathy when someone's morbid obesity leads to their death?

[Mme Irony]

Were you talking to me? I still have sympathy for those who were left behind. Sympathy for any deceased person is wasted. It is the sympathy for the living that I feel. So if someone's morbid obesity or drug taking or smoking leads to their death, I cannot help feeling sympathy for those who loved that person. If that makes me a bad person or part of the drug takers "love in", so be it.

[Gromit]

Not really bothered what he did when he was alive, but suicide is a sh1tty thing to do on your loved ones and friends.