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Aren't these childish actions against the BNP?
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The more I read of these silly MEPs childish actions against what are after all democratic elected members of the European Parliament, the more I side with the BNP.
The more I read of these silly MEPs childish actions against what are after all democratic elected members of the European Parliament, the more I side with the BNP.
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Gromit - tell that to Emmanuel Olisadebe. ;-)
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Quinlad: "Of course, the other school of thought is that by sitting down with them for rational debate you legitimise them......".
No Quinny, bless, the public legitimised them by voting them in as MEP's.
Lefties make me PMSL, they just cannot stand it when a different view exists.
If this silly c0w won't sit next to them then great one less lefty in the chamber, perhaps her constituents should consider her position next time they get a chance after all this hissy fit is depriving them of representation.
No Quinny, bless, the public legitimised them by voting them in as MEP's.
Lefties make me PMSL, they just cannot stand it when a different view exists.
If this silly c0w won't sit next to them then great one less lefty in the chamber, perhaps her constituents should consider her position next time they get a chance after all this hissy fit is depriving them of representation.
True to form jake, if one dares to have a different opinion to yours, then just wheel out that over used weapon 'You are a racist'.
OK, call me that if you like it is only a word and it doesn't scare me in the least, in fact you need not post your contributions to my posts, isn't it against your principles? Good job we don't have to sit next to each other.
The political parties from the Left of the Labour party through the Tories to the DUP are saying..............
If you don't follow the rest of the sheep, or your views are different to ours, democracy can goe out of the window.
Didn't the same thing happen when the people of Palestine voted in a party that the West did not like?
OK, call me that if you like it is only a word and it doesn't scare me in the least, in fact you need not post your contributions to my posts, isn't it against your principles? Good job we don't have to sit next to each other.
The political parties from the Left of the Labour party through the Tories to the DUP are saying..............
If you don't follow the rest of the sheep, or your views are different to ours, democracy can goe out of the window.
Didn't the same thing happen when the people of Palestine voted in a party that the West did not like?
At leats you've dropped that silly 'I'm not a BNP supporter but...' pretence now, AOG.
And while we're on the subject, I honestly don't see how anyone's democracy is being infringed here. No one - literally no one - is saying they should be barred from casting their vote as MEPs. They're more than free to exercise the will of the elecorate that voted them in. Other MEPs (those elected by non-BNP supporters) simply want to register their disdain for fascism. Which is their democratic right - and reflective of the will of their voters.
Sometimes people's understanding of basic freedoms (like freedom of speech) is infantile. 'I'm free to say what I want' is one part of freedom of expression. 'Yes, and I'm free to disagree/question your intelligence/walk off' is another.
I'd say that pretty easy to understand.
And while we're on the subject, I honestly don't see how anyone's democracy is being infringed here. No one - literally no one - is saying they should be barred from casting their vote as MEPs. They're more than free to exercise the will of the elecorate that voted them in. Other MEPs (those elected by non-BNP supporters) simply want to register their disdain for fascism. Which is their democratic right - and reflective of the will of their voters.
Sometimes people's understanding of basic freedoms (like freedom of speech) is infantile. 'I'm free to say what I want' is one part of freedom of expression. 'Yes, and I'm free to disagree/question your intelligence/walk off' is another.
I'd say that pretty easy to understand.
Quinlad
I honestly don't see how anyone's democracy is being infringed here.
Then obviously you do not understand democracy:
'The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community'.
Where would we be if other members of a parliament wouldn't speak, sit, enter into debate, sit on select committees etc, etc, with each other, just because they did not agree with the other members politics?
Why else should we have different political parties? Or is that your wish to see one party that will enforce only your own particular views?
Isn't that a dictatorship?
I honestly don't see how anyone's democracy is being infringed here.
Then obviously you do not understand democracy:
'The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community'.
Where would we be if other members of a parliament wouldn't speak, sit, enter into debate, sit on select committees etc, etc, with each other, just because they did not agree with the other members politics?
Why else should we have different political parties? Or is that your wish to see one party that will enforce only your own particular views?
Isn't that a dictatorship?
Again, you've glossed over this part.
"No one - literally no one - is saying they should be barred from casting their vote as MEPs. They're more than free to exercise the will of the elecorate that voted them in. "
But never mind. I never expect you to more than skim read.
But I'm suprised that someone of your advanced years has such a primitive understanding of how a public forum works. You'll notice in the House of Commons that honourable members raise their voices, they wave papers, they shout over the top of each other, they lean over the dispatch box, they pointedly chat amongst themselves. Why? Because human expression is more than just swapping words. It's body language, it's theatrics, it's gestures.
Nick Griffin does it himself. That's why as an MEP he organised a photo call at Westminster. Remember that?
Turning your back on someone can send a far more forceful and articulate message than a rote repetition of words. It's an example of free expression.
If it was just a matter of verbal communication, we might as well patch our MEPs into a conference call. But we don't.
It's interesting that some of you bleat about the BNP being undemocratically left out of of the debate. They, unlike other minority parties, preach on a platform of discrimination, one that openly leaves people of a certain demographic out. It wants them out. It doesn't want them in its society. It doesn't want to represent them and it wants them gone. Perhaps if they were inclusive rather than exclusive others might sit down and talk to them.
"No one - literally no one - is saying they should be barred from casting their vote as MEPs. They're more than free to exercise the will of the elecorate that voted them in. "
But never mind. I never expect you to more than skim read.
But I'm suprised that someone of your advanced years has such a primitive understanding of how a public forum works. You'll notice in the House of Commons that honourable members raise their voices, they wave papers, they shout over the top of each other, they lean over the dispatch box, they pointedly chat amongst themselves. Why? Because human expression is more than just swapping words. It's body language, it's theatrics, it's gestures.
Nick Griffin does it himself. That's why as an MEP he organised a photo call at Westminster. Remember that?
Turning your back on someone can send a far more forceful and articulate message than a rote repetition of words. It's an example of free expression.
If it was just a matter of verbal communication, we might as well patch our MEPs into a conference call. But we don't.
It's interesting that some of you bleat about the BNP being undemocratically left out of of the debate. They, unlike other minority parties, preach on a platform of discrimination, one that openly leaves people of a certain demographic out. It wants them out. It doesn't want them in its society. It doesn't want to represent them and it wants them gone. Perhaps if they were inclusive rather than exclusive others might sit down and talk to them.
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