Should Lesley Pilkington be struck off?

[sp1814]

http://www.telegraph....-men-go-straight.html

She claims to be able to turn gay men straight via counselling, and agrees that homosexuality as "a mental illness, an addiction and antireligious phenomenon”.

However...if a gay man or woman is genuinely unhappy being gay and wants to seek counselling for a 'cure', shouldn't they have the option?

Or is this reinforcing the idea that homosexuality is a mental illness and that all people are really heterosexual underneath?

[eyethenkyew]

I've even simplified it in my 16:03 post, i.e.

"a man inserting his penis into another man's bum. What exactly is "natural" about that?"

[Ankou]

i am quite beyond caring what you feel about it to be honest.

[eyethenkyew]

I'll return later to view the grown up answers. (Breath not being held in the meantime)

[Zeuhl]

Eyethankyou: <<Sad, sad, sad individuals on here>>

I couldn't agree more.
No prizes for guessing which poster on this thread would get the biggest 'sad t0sser' vote today.
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[ummmm]

Why are you presuming that all gay men have anul sex?

Is it ok for a hetro couple to have anul? Loads of them do it...

[jackthehat]

Are you sure that you don't spend more time thinking 'quite hard' about this, than you are prepared to admit.....?

[Ankou]

come now umm, a lot of men find it quite natural to get their wives to poke a rubber strap on in the most unexpected places.

eyetheknew seems to think about penises and hairy male bums quite a lot. perhaps he has gone for a cold shower.

[ummmm]

I do believe that Ann Summers does a roaring trade in butt plugs as well....

[Zeuhl]

<<My post at 15:27 is the most relevant of mine. Still awaiting anyone to address it. >>

Then address my question to you at 16.10 - what is your definition of 'natural'?

On second thoughts; who cares?
Let's be honest, it isn't going to be anything illuminating or intellectually stimulating is it!
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[ummmm]

The swear filter use to change it...anal.

[andy-hughes]

There are two distinct issues involved here.

The first is the Question raised - should Lesley Pilkington be struck off? In my view - yes, because she has contravened the fundamental rules and auspices of the organisation to which she is accredited, which makes it very clear that it does not believe the homosexuality is a psychological condition which can be altered by means of therapy / counselling.

This then opens the sub-text of the 'normality' of homosexuality, and its 'rightness' in society, which as usual polarises into the standard arguments.

As sp1814 points out - some individuals are unhappy with their sexuality, and counselling around that unhappiness is all well and good, but to purport the posession of a conselling method which will 'cure' orientation is trading under false pretexts, and should be a disciplinary issue.

It does appear that this lady is confusing the aspoects of her religious faith - personal - with her attitudes towards sexuality and counselling - professional - and she has crossed the line, and should be strruck off accordingly.

[anotheoldgit]

eyethenkyew
/// I cannot believe the amount of smokescreens being put up here. I challenged anyone to come up with reasons why unnatural sexual acts are deemed by some to be "natural", and so far, all that's happened is that other pixels are attacking me for asking for grown up answers.///

Birds of a feather, eh?

Now you know what it is like being on this side,

[jackthehat]

Me me me me me me me me me me me, again, AOG............?

[ummmm]

Define unnatural AOG. People do what feels nice to them.

[sandyRoe]

I suppose it can't be easy being on the dark side. Everywhere you go you're menaced by gay Muslims and their single mothers all living off the state.

[anotheoldgit]

/// So, there is documented obvservations of homosexual behaviour in animals, which I believe goes some way to support the view that it's a naturally occurring phenomenon.///

But don't they go around licking each others bums? errr.

By the way sp are you allowed to 'black up' Oliver Hardy?

[Ankou]

aog - "Now you know what it is like being on this side"

are you saying that you and eyetheknew are batting for the other side ?

[andy-hughes]

Wow - feeling brave Ankou?