Mephisto Help With Parsinge

[alidoc]

Having trouble parsing these 2 clues
7d take spoon say its a hoot ro?r
27d in east London grandaddy of a success within o?pa
should be obvious but even with the help of Chambers can"t work out the solutions. Any hints gratefully received

[emeritus]

Oupa

[bobbinwales]

roar???

[emeritus]

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/oupa

[emeritus]

East London being the clue to South Africa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_London,_Eastern_Cape

[alidoc]

Thanks my Afrikaans obviously leaves something to be desired. I now understand oupa but why roar which doesn't seem to connect with the first clue except tenuously with perhaps a hoot, where on earth does the spoon come in !?

[bobbinwales]

sorry cant see where spoon comes in yet- i though say might mean a kind of spoon or cutlery piece or sounds like a type of spoon .... but can't think of anything yet

[Neveracrossword]

7.. R = Take (it's from Latin, R, recipe - I think) +Oar, spoon(confirmed in Chambers).

[alidoc]

thanks to all for your help