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Why Respect Authority?
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Respect for authority does not always come easily to us. Do you sometimes find it difficult to respect those who have a measure of authority over you? If so, you are not alone in this struggle. We live at a time when respect for authority seems to be at an all-time low. Yet, the Bible says that we need to show respect for those who hold positions of authority over us.
(1 PETER 2:17)
(1 PETER 2:17)
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Elderman, you're completely oblivious to anything you don't want to hear, aren't you? Perhaps that's why you don't answer questions that fall outside your comfort zone. You've allowed someone else, who in reality knows no more than anyone else, to brainwash you, and it doesn't worry you in the least.
@Elderman - I am curious now. You witter on about those who deny Gods existence offering him an insult.
That means one or more of several possibilities.
1. God is vain, only wanting to be praised 24/7 for having created us.Pretty awful role model then, really - kind of a galactic Simon Cowell perhaps?
2. God is not very good at forward planning - he gives us free will, then gets insulted when we exercise it? What kind of dunderhead is he?
3.God is ineffectual and weak - if he were that desperate for acknowledgement, come out of the closet ( as it were) and participate in a kind of XFactor for deities - show some talent! - rearrange the stars, move earth to the centre of the universe, change the pacific into wine... you know, something subtle and understated, as a kind of reminder message...
Instead he does..... nothing. And you know why? Cos he aint there. Carry on reading your bible if it gives you comfort, Elderman - carry on living by the precepts of the bible if it provides you with the order you so obviously crave - but do not for one second think that your little homilies and finger wagging in persuit of your evangelism are likely to achieve anything on this forum.....
That means one or more of several possibilities.
1. God is vain, only wanting to be praised 24/7 for having created us.Pretty awful role model then, really - kind of a galactic Simon Cowell perhaps?
2. God is not very good at forward planning - he gives us free will, then gets insulted when we exercise it? What kind of dunderhead is he?
3.God is ineffectual and weak - if he were that desperate for acknowledgement, come out of the closet ( as it were) and participate in a kind of XFactor for deities - show some talent! - rearrange the stars, move earth to the centre of the universe, change the pacific into wine... you know, something subtle and understated, as a kind of reminder message...
Instead he does..... nothing. And you know why? Cos he aint there. Carry on reading your bible if it gives you comfort, Elderman - carry on living by the precepts of the bible if it provides you with the order you so obviously crave - but do not for one second think that your little homilies and finger wagging in persuit of your evangelism are likely to achieve anything on this forum.....
To Know “a workman with nothing to be ashamed of,” Timothy was reminded that no deviation from the true teachings of God’s Word would be allowed. Timothy was not to permit his personal views to shape his teaching. He was to center his preaching and teaching strictly on the Scriptures. (2 Timothy 4:2-4) In this way, honesthearted individuals would be directed to have God’s mind on matters, not to adopt worldly philosophy.
So LazyGun For centuries the Bible has endured criticism and attack. Time and again the Bible text has been vindicated. When the Bible touches on history, health, and science, its accounts have repeatedly been proved reliable. Its advice regarding human relations is trustworthy and timeless. Human philosophies and theories, like so much green grass, sprout and then wither over time, but the Word of God “will last to time indefinite.”—Isaiah 40:8
So LazyGun For centuries the Bible has endured criticism and attack. Time and again the Bible text has been vindicated. When the Bible touches on history, health, and science, its accounts have repeatedly been proved reliable. Its advice regarding human relations is trustworthy and timeless. Human philosophies and theories, like so much green grass, sprout and then wither over time, but the Word of God “will last to time indefinite.”—Isaiah 40:8
@Elderman - Ahh, the usual irrelevance and verse, coupled with a dogged defence of your holy tome, without of course addressing any of the points raised.
You state that the Bible is a reliable source of information when it comes to history, science or health? Absolutely and categorically not.
1. The Bibles own creation story has it ass backwards, creating earth first before all the stars and the firmament. Science shows us that the cosmos is significantly older than the Earth. Science 1 - The Bible 0
2. How could God create the evening and the morning on the first day, if he didnt make light producing objects until the 4th day? Science 2 - Oral Tall Tales 0
3. Plants were made on the 3rd day - but there was no Sun to drive photosynthesis until the 4th day . Science 3 - Book of myth and legend 0
4. Genesis says creation took 6 days, but the universe is 14 billion or so years old? And we have evidence of the creation of new stars...oops!
Science 4 - Much edited, politically inspired collection of homilies and stories 0.
I could go on, but 4-0 seems good enough to be going on with.
You state that the Bible is a reliable source of information when it comes to history, science or health? Absolutely and categorically not.
1. The Bibles own creation story has it ass backwards, creating earth first before all the stars and the firmament. Science shows us that the cosmos is significantly older than the Earth. Science 1 - The Bible 0
2. How could God create the evening and the morning on the first day, if he didnt make light producing objects until the 4th day? Science 2 - Oral Tall Tales 0
3. Plants were made on the 3rd day - but there was no Sun to drive photosynthesis until the 4th day . Science 3 - Book of myth and legend 0
4. Genesis says creation took 6 days, but the universe is 14 billion or so years old? And we have evidence of the creation of new stars...oops!
Science 4 - Much edited, politically inspired collection of homilies and stories 0.
I could go on, but 4-0 seems good enough to be going on with.
Are you child viewing time or a man, or from the way a person well along in years views it? To a child twelve months might seem to be a very long time, but to an elderly person the years just seem to fly by. How much differently, then, must the “Ancient of Days” view time from the way we mortals do! Obviously, when God in his Word speaks of a “day” or “days,” we should not conclude that he always means days of twenty-four hours.
In the account of creation we have “day” used to refer to three different periods of time. “Day” is used to refer to the daylight hours, as when we read: “God began calling the light Day, but the darkness he called Night.” It is used to refer to both day and night, as when we read: “There came to be evening and there came to be morning, a first day.” And “day” is also used to refer to the entire time period involved in creation of the heavens and the earth: “This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that God made earth and heaven.”—Gen. 1:5; 2:4.
Then again, on more than one occasion God used a day to represent a year. This he did in connection with the Israelites in the wilderness and with his prophet Ezekiel. His Word says: “A day for a year, a day for a year, you will answer for your errors.” “A day for a year, a day for a year, is what I have given you.” (Num. 14:34; Ezek. 4:6)
No not only one year, but even a thousand years are at times represented as one day in God’s Word. As the prophet Moses said “For a thousand years are in your eyes but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch during the night.” The apostle Peter expresses it even stronger: “Let this one fact not be escaping your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with God as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.”—Ps. 90:4; 2 Pet. 3:8.
So jackthehat 2000 years would be two days it clear that a “day” from God’s viewpoint is not necessarily limited to twenty-four hours.
In the account of creation we have “day” used to refer to three different periods of time. “Day” is used to refer to the daylight hours, as when we read: “God began calling the light Day, but the darkness he called Night.” It is used to refer to both day and night, as when we read: “There came to be evening and there came to be morning, a first day.” And “day” is also used to refer to the entire time period involved in creation of the heavens and the earth: “This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that God made earth and heaven.”—Gen. 1:5; 2:4.
Then again, on more than one occasion God used a day to represent a year. This he did in connection with the Israelites in the wilderness and with his prophet Ezekiel. His Word says: “A day for a year, a day for a year, you will answer for your errors.” “A day for a year, a day for a year, is what I have given you.” (Num. 14:34; Ezek. 4:6)
No not only one year, but even a thousand years are at times represented as one day in God’s Word. As the prophet Moses said “For a thousand years are in your eyes but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch during the night.” The apostle Peter expresses it even stronger: “Let this one fact not be escaping your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with God as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.”—Ps. 90:4; 2 Pet. 3:8.
So jackthehat 2000 years would be two days it clear that a “day” from God’s viewpoint is not necessarily limited to twenty-four hours.
No,having the wisdom and the insight that you lack, God is capable of foreknowing, if he so desires, the outcome of every action. He can know “from the beginning the finale.” (Isaiah 46:10)so, he can unerringly pick the most opportune time to do anything he wants to do. Rather than trusting your own faulty sense of timing,
Elderman, not only does your rhetoric not make any sense whatsoever, but your use of English is truly appalling- why not pray to your God for a bit of help with not constructing a sentence like this:-
'Rather than trusting your own faulty sense of timing,'- what the hell is that supposed to mean anyway?
'Rather than trusting your own faulty sense of timing,'- what the hell is that supposed to mean anyway?
NOX, The word “sense” is defined as “accurate appreciation,” “understanding,” and “practical wisdom or judgement.” It implies that a person has the ability to judge and decide with intelligence. Common sense evidently requires that we use thinking ability. some people would rather let others do their thinking for them.
I think you'll find the argument from most of the non Christian folk on this thread is that they'd rather the Bible or any passing reborn fundamentalist Christian didn't do their thinking for them- THAT is the whole point of not blindly accepting authority ( especially an authority that someone else has set up for their own dark ends like the Christian church).
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