Witchcraft

[pdust]

do you believe in it?

i was gonna make a new account to talk about this so you didnt all think i was mad but the fact that we would have had the same avatar could have been a dead giveaway :P

anyway..... ive always had lucid dreams and often had what people refer to as sleep paralysis but ive always thought there was more to it than your brains awake but your bodies not kind of thing....if there was just the sense of paralysis i could believe it but the sense that something evil is in the room with me makes me believe its more than that... also i had this long before i heard others had it and after reading about it i find it completely weird that people throughout the ages from all different backgrounds and cultures can have the same experience of an evil thing near them

to cut a long story short a fortnight ago i gave someone a personal belonging of mine then later joked he was going to do voodoo on me

since then i have had night terrors a lot worse than ever before.... im not stressed, i dont touch alcohol or any drugs at all.... i spoke with a friend whos alim and he advised me to among other things play a recording of quran while i sleep... i did this for 2 or 3 nights and nothing happened. last night i forgot to put it on and it was back full force

so my question is simple.... do you believe witchcraft exists?

[jim360]

I never meant to imply that you became a witch because of HP (sauce)... more that you strike me as far more sensible than he was :).

[Zacs-Master]

Not directly related to the OP but a couple of nights ago i had a small dream where i was driving a car along a sunny road with dry stone walls either side and I was 100% certain I was dreaming whilst having it. I distinctly remember thinking, I wonder where I really am. Wierd.

[sebhfhion]

to Jim: see my 'be nice to Seb' spell worked ....cackle cackle.......;-)

[ludwig]

You're obviously a sensible person pdust, but the concept of blaming bad things on evil, as channelled through a person or 'witch' is a dangerous one.

In the hands of the less enlightened, such beliefs are a slippery slope towards hanging the old woman and her cat next door because your milk turned sour, or beating the demons out of a possessed child.

[jim360]

[monotonous voice] Yes I will be nice to seb for now and all days...

[pdust]

jom i was 7 years old when i came out of assembly after having the Jesus (pbuh) was the son of God talk and decided if God was so powerful why would he need a son and from then til i was 44 when i reverted i ignored religion... so your argument doesnt work for me as i had this regularly over those years but this is first time since i reverted its happened...

daisy yeah i agree that voodoo and witchcraft are different....

*so your friend might indeed have his own agenda, although why would he do that?* this is where the joke comes in sharingan and please please dont take offence.....the guy in question is jewish, i have friends who absolutely hate jews..... hence the 'omg why did you give him such and such a thing' and me jokingly saying 'eeek maybe he will do voodoo on me'

[sebhfhion]

to Pdust I could seriously help you with this problem but can't on an open forum -please tell me what you gave this person and if appropriate I will, with permission, give you an email address you can contact me at.

[pdust]

ok ive lost it (no pun intended) theres too much to reply to and im running late for work.....

china you are first person ive heard that says it didnt feel sinister but still you feel someone in the room with you like every single other report ive heard/seen/read about..... when i get it its like being in that freaky film based on ps game.... cant remember its name at minute....

hi ron thanks for a lovely reply.... ameen and wa iyyaka if you believe in God, and if not then have i hope you have a lovely life and stay safe :)

[jomifl]

I go out for lunch and when I return this thread has gone mad! people are being reasonable, nice to each other, helpful even. A coven of witches seems to be in the making and no sign of goodlife. Life can exist without religion after all :-)

[pdust]

*Ever had that feeling you're witnessing the Twilight Zone? :o/*

lol you just cant help yourself can you? if you've nothing to add apart from mockery why dont you just take yourself off and go do something worthwhile....

[jomifl]

Pdust, I am not sure what argument of mine you are referring to that doesn't work. could you clarify as I haven't made any comments about religion.
I was shocked to hear that you have racist friends, you should be more careful. How come you have friends who hate Jews(are they in the legal profession?:-)) when I don't know anybody who admits to doing so.

[pdust]

thanks for that seb but what im doing seems to be helping though i dont mind chatting about it with you from your point of view :) if you know are in contact with umm, fluff or headwreck they all have a way to get in touch with me or if not then by all means give your email address...though im not sure ed allows it tbh

flurf... i saw your reply but lost where it is... way too much here for me to take in with the concentration i have.... i know what you are meaning and my head is settled on that.... i believe he accepted Islam before he passed so although i miss him i truly believe he is in a better place now :)

[pdust]

jom heres what you said

good dose of atheism is more likely help than another layer of pseudo-supernatural nonsense.

sorry im running out of time and already missed one bus to work lol...... it was that i was meaning....

[pdust]

and my friends who hate jews.... well they are like too many other people who blame the majority on what the minority does..... it all stems from whats happening in palestine....

[Answerprancer]

Yes I do - Wicca (the wise craft) is one of two belief systems that I support and approve of the most. It definitely exists and I've met and been friends with many practitioners.

[Answerprancer]

Doctordb: "

"It constantly amazes me how many usually reasoned and capable people there are who ought to know better".

What, like people who state their personal opinions as if they were fact? :-/

[doctordb]

No answerprancer,

Like people who for the most part make decisions based on reason and intellect but believe in witches.

[Answerprancer]

In that case would it hurt to chuck in the odd "I think" or "in my opinion" when making statements like "it's a load of nonsense"?

[jomifl]

AP,/ It definitely exists / so not just your opinion then?

[Answerprancer]

No, witchcraft definitely exists just as christianity does.