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Why Vote Tory?
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Not looking for a fight or any name calling, I just really would like to know...
I have never understood why working class/lower middle class people vote Tory when the Labour party better represent their interests. I know that the Labour Party is not perfect and I understand many of the reasons that people choose not to vote for them... but why vote Tory?
So I would love to hear from Tory voters what it is about the Tory party that earns them their vote.
Thanks
Andrew
I have never understood why working class/lower middle class people vote Tory when the Labour party better represent their interests. I know that the Labour Party is not perfect and I understand many of the reasons that people choose not to vote for them... but why vote Tory?
So I would love to hear from Tory voters what it is about the Tory party that earns them their vote.
Thanks
Andrew
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I've been a Labour voter all my adult life until Blair. Since then I've voted UKIP and more recently Tory. Why? Because I feel voting for the lesser parties is a wasted vote as they are unlikely to ever form a Government. I live in a safe Labour constituency, but I feel a change may be due this time due to the referendum result. I may be wrong but we shall see on June 8th!
//I have never understood why working class/lower middle class people vote Tory when the Labour party better represent their interests//
I am the oldest of a family of 13 raised on a council estate and went to work in the coal mines aged 16. After attending my first union meeting(a union I was forced to join as a condition of employment) as a teenager, I knew that Labour were never going to "represent" me or support my own aspirations and wishes for the future. The herd instinct was never in my psyche, less still the need to wear the mantle of victimhood and the covetousness of others. I was not wrong all those years ago.
I am the oldest of a family of 13 raised on a council estate and went to work in the coal mines aged 16. After attending my first union meeting(a union I was forced to join as a condition of employment) as a teenager, I knew that Labour were never going to "represent" me or support my own aspirations and wishes for the future. The herd instinct was never in my psyche, less still the need to wear the mantle of victimhood and the covetousness of others. I was not wrong all those years ago.
Because I came to the realisation over forty years ago that neither left-wing politics nor right-wing politics worked for basically the same reason – human beings. If workers could be trusted with more power socialism might work, if bosses could be trusted to dish out profits more fairly capitalism might work, but as it is neither works. I have found what tends to work best is something just to the right of centre. I have always voted Tory, but to be fair New Labour wasn’t too far from my stance.
I once had two friends, Larry and Tommy, and I wanted one of them to help me look after my business.
Larry was great fun, very generous, always buying things and treating people to a meal or a drink. He was great fun to be around as you hardly had to pay for anything. However the week before payday he was broke and had to go round cap in hand borrowing money.
Tommy on the other hand was a lot more serious, somewhat "tight" with his money, and was very careful what he bought, but at the end of the month he always had some spare money left.
At first I let Larry look after my business as he was more fun but after a few months I realised if we carried on the way we were going we would be bankrupt and have to close the business.
So I then asked Tommy to help run my business and while life is not as much fun we now have a thriving business and we have money in the bank.
I would never trust Larry with my business again.
In fact Tommy spends most of his life sorting out the financial mess that Larry has made.
Larry was great fun, very generous, always buying things and treating people to a meal or a drink. He was great fun to be around as you hardly had to pay for anything. However the week before payday he was broke and had to go round cap in hand borrowing money.
Tommy on the other hand was a lot more serious, somewhat "tight" with his money, and was very careful what he bought, but at the end of the month he always had some spare money left.
At first I let Larry look after my business as he was more fun but after a few months I realised if we carried on the way we were going we would be bankrupt and have to close the business.
So I then asked Tommy to help run my business and while life is not as much fun we now have a thriving business and we have money in the bank.
I would never trust Larry with my business again.
In fact Tommy spends most of his life sorting out the financial mess that Larry has made.
I don't know I could add much to what has already been said other than I agree with just about everything said.
I have not been a lifelong Conservative voter but realised that to try to force business owners to give more than reasonable was counter productive to the economy (and that is what makes the country tick) and to make more people reliant on the state was tantermount to degradation of moral. Socialism takes away self reliance and aspiration.
Come the asteroid impact and the collective, by necessity, will spring up BUT everyone will have to contribute. There will be no free ride or free lunch.
I have not been a lifelong Conservative voter but realised that to try to force business owners to give more than reasonable was counter productive to the economy (and that is what makes the country tick) and to make more people reliant on the state was tantermount to degradation of moral. Socialism takes away self reliance and aspiration.
Come the asteroid impact and the collective, by necessity, will spring up BUT everyone will have to contribute. There will be no free ride or free lunch.
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“…when the Labour party better represent their interests.”
Just concentrating on the current party and its manifesto, if Labour’s policies on spending are enacted, public finances will go into complete disarray with the deficit increasing alarmingly. This will affect the value of the pound, see an increase in inflation with a consequent increase in interest rates. The idea that this spending plan can be financed by getting the so-called rich to pay “a little bit more” (i.e. up to £23,000) tax is fanciful. They will change their habits (and their avoidance schemes) to minimise the damage. Increasing corporation tax will see companies do likewise with a loss of investment in the UK being the result.
This nonsense has been tried and it’s failed. The problem is, the people now cheering from the rooftops at Mr Corbyn’s plans were not around when it last failed and they were not taught at school that you cannot make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. As I read in one paper today, “it would be like Venezuela without the oil”.
So how such a plan is in the best interests of working class or lower middle class people is a little hard to fathom.
Why do the Tories get my vote? Purely a matter of (bitter) experience. Since I've been old enough to vote I've endured three spells of Labour government, three Tory (including the current one) and one Coalition. At the end of each of the Labour spells the country (and I) was left far worse off than when it began. As well as that the Labour Party (particularly the ultra-Left leaning examples such as the one bidding for government now) believed it could run essential services far better than the private sector and demonstrated that it was abjectly unable to do so. In short, been there, done that, got the T-Shirt, suffered the grief. And I don't want to do it again, thanks all the same.
Just concentrating on the current party and its manifesto, if Labour’s policies on spending are enacted, public finances will go into complete disarray with the deficit increasing alarmingly. This will affect the value of the pound, see an increase in inflation with a consequent increase in interest rates. The idea that this spending plan can be financed by getting the so-called rich to pay “a little bit more” (i.e. up to £23,000) tax is fanciful. They will change their habits (and their avoidance schemes) to minimise the damage. Increasing corporation tax will see companies do likewise with a loss of investment in the UK being the result.
This nonsense has been tried and it’s failed. The problem is, the people now cheering from the rooftops at Mr Corbyn’s plans were not around when it last failed and they were not taught at school that you cannot make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. As I read in one paper today, “it would be like Venezuela without the oil”.
So how such a plan is in the best interests of working class or lower middle class people is a little hard to fathom.
Why do the Tories get my vote? Purely a matter of (bitter) experience. Since I've been old enough to vote I've endured three spells of Labour government, three Tory (including the current one) and one Coalition. At the end of each of the Labour spells the country (and I) was left far worse off than when it began. As well as that the Labour Party (particularly the ultra-Left leaning examples such as the one bidding for government now) believed it could run essential services far better than the private sector and demonstrated that it was abjectly unable to do so. In short, been there, done that, got the T-Shirt, suffered the grief. And I don't want to do it again, thanks all the same.
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