Found On Fb, Thought It Interesting. Is It Correct Or Not ?

[SparklyKid]

http://tinypic.com/r/2u6e2i8/9

[naomi24]

woofgang, //Shall I sling in the Spanish inquisition here? //

You can if you like, but that's not likely to have much of an effect on the rest of us in the near future.

[-Talbot-]

What happened with the Romans and what happened with the Spanish and the Portuguese in the past is totally irrelevant to me in 2018.

I don't want Islam to get a grip on any sort of power in my country. If that makes me Islamaphobic, so what... I really don't care.

[dannyk13]

Thanks.have now seen it, but how accurate is it? Pakistan has never been other than a Muslim country.

[jim360]

Prior to Pakistan being a defined country, the region had a large part to play in early Hinduism, but yes, that's another question-mark on the point of the image.

Still, never let the "whole truth" get in the way of a good anti-Muslim rant...

[Old_Geezer]

Previous religious expansions have been in the past. One suspects exposure to modern day cultures and enlightenment may weaken the hold of religious myths, now and in the future, as new generations question the (lack of) logic behind blind faith in ancient religions and their figureheads. One may get marginalised by those from cultures that fail to see the perils of overbreeding, sufficiently early, but aquired wisdom should ensure religion no longer drives the masses.

[naomi24]

Jim, I've seen no ranting. Your imagination is running away with you again.

[jim360]

There are many things I can be accused of, but I'm not sure that having an imagination is one of them :P

[naomi24]

Well, the accusation has twice been accurate on this thread, Jim. No ranting that I can see - and see 13:26

[spathiphyllum]

"Still, never let the "whole truth" get in the way of a good anti-Muslim rant..."

LOL ennit wheres me pitchfork?

[SparklyKid]

I gave Talbot BA. Apologies to Naomi, whose input is always on the button.

[spathiphyllum]

yes, this button

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/994280982177091585/9u0yoKEZ_400x400.jpg

[jim360]

I haven't imagined anything, and I'm confident that I've understood the article and its intent perfectly. It's a misleading attempt to paint Muslims in a particularly bad light, while ignoring the historical crimes that everyone else got around to, and it's a shame that you can't see how dishonest such a half-truth is.

[spathiphyllum]

"It's a misleading attempt to paint Muslims in a particularly bad light"

Standard.

[bainbrig]

Sparkly's comment "Historic Christian brutality does not seem to occur now." does smack a little of "It's deja vu all over again" if you take his(her) words literally.

BB

[naomi24]

Jim, //I haven't imagined anything//

Yes, Jim, you have. You imagined that the link is “making it appear as if Islam was the first aggressive conquest of those countries”. It indicates nothing of the sort…. and no one is ranting either.

SparklyKid, at 15:58. Good choice, :o)

[emmie]

fair bit of truth in that...

[jim360]

Oh, please. If you say that before such-and-such an event happened, that the country was Christian, then it's a clear and obvious implication that there is no interest held in how the country became Christian. Either because it was ever thus, or because it was a perfectly peaceful and consensual transition, it matters not: all that matters is that there's no reason to care.

The omission of this history is deliberate, and it is clear what the point is: when Islam enters a country, there is a religious upheaval that at the very least overshadows any other possible religious transition.

I'm not going to apologise for seeing clearly what the article says and what it means, and I don't have to defend my understanding of the article. I know what it says, and I know *why* it says what it says.

[naomi24]

Jim, You're seeing what isn't there - it just isn't - and you haven't been asked for an apology.

[hereIam]

Correct !

[vetuste_ennemi]

//That's what Empires do: they conquer.
So why specifically focus on Islam?//

Because Islam is a political project as well as a spiritual one, Jim. Conquest in order to force the world of unbelief ("Dar al-Harb" - "The House of War") to submit to God's Law is an essential tenet of the religion (and a mandatory duty of the Caliph - the legitimate one, not the ISIS self-announced one).

https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/dar-al-harb

PS: you might want to do a little research on the Sharia to see how broad its remit is over all aspects of life, and how compatible so-called "God's Law" is with secular democracy and modern concepts of "Human Rights". This research should include, I suggest, looking at those countries today which have incorporated parts of the Sharia into their constitutions (Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia) and those countries with federal structures some of whose provinces have adopted aspects of the Sharia (Nigeria's northern Hause provinces, Aceh province in Indonesia) and comtemplate what UK society will be like when half the population of our major cities becomes Muslim.