A Nation Of Hypocrites.

[Theland]

After the very public outpouring of grief on 11/11, we now go back to normal, with military veterans denied adequate financial help, and Part of Mrs Mays reading in the Abbey was about feeding the hungry. Really? The perpetrator of the food banks?
What a shower, a nation of hypocrites!

[naomi24]

Or maybe half of your claimed number weren't on the streets in the first place.

[spathiphyllum]

maybe..

Either way. How disgraceful even one is. Playing it down like even 100 is OK is not OK naomi.

[naomi24]

No one is playing it down.... but you are playing it up. Have you read the previous posts and looked at the possible reasons?

[Jackdaw33]

The UN has no power to impose 'laws' on sovereign nations, as does not the EU.

[spathiphyllum]

"His comments come as campaigners revealed the combined number of veterans in prison or on probation, or who are homeless, or who are suffering with mental health problems may be as high as 66,000."

"And based on figures from the Government, homeless charities, and veterans organisations, Plaid Cymru - which is calling on the government to provide more joined-up care for veterans - estimates that there are some 6,000 homeless veterans across England and Wales."


More needs to be done. Thelands OP has a point.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/16/retiring-soldiers-should-face-psychological-exams-help-avoid/

[naomi24]

Jackdaw, don't tell me. Tell the politicians who deemed that war 'illegal'.

spath, you've suddenly shifted from the homeless, to those in prison, to those with mental health issues. Where are you going with this?

[spathiphyllum]

"or who are homeless"

[bainbrig]

What garbage! “ If he [Blair] hadn't led us into an illegal war it's likely there would be fewer military veterans needing help. Who's the hypocrite?” Naomi’s “arguement”. Utter tosh.

Where was the opposition to ‘Blair’s War’?

Were the Tories up in arms over it?

Not a bit of it.

And most of the donkey-licking Blairites bleated and followed their master.

(Except Corbyn - remember that!)

[naomi24]

Pardon?

[spathiphyllum]

"new labour" AKA Tory spies getting power on the other side

Blair screams tory. He is a warmonger. He should be in prison.

[spathiphyllum]

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/owen-jones-its-time-to-demolish-the-myth-about-tony-blair-7808282.html


"You will struggle to find more devout supporters of Tony Blair than those at the top of the Conservative leadership. "I can't hold it back any more; I love Tony!" Michael Gove once exclaimed. David Cameron famously described himself as "the heir to Blair", and senior Tories refer to him as "The Master". "

I wonder why... -.-

[bainbrig]

And Blair pre 1997 described himself as the heir to Thatcher - and went on to prove it.

[mushroom25]

//Totally agree theland, those 13,000 veterans on the streets i'm sure feel honoured and remembered. //

at the time of availability of last figures, there were not 13,000ex servicemen on the streets - nor indeed were there 13,000 people of any description on the streets. the actual figure for rough sleepers in the UK is just shy of 5000 - of which a proportion will be ex-servicemen.
https://www.homeless.org.uk/facts/homelessness-in-numbers/how-many-people-sleep-rough-in-england
there will though be many more than that who fall into the bracket of "homeless", although the actual number depends on how the word "homeless" is defined; whether it's to include those living in hostels, B&Bs, sofa-surfers, etc.

[naomi24]

Bainbrig, an inconveniently embarrassing truth it might be but garbage and tosh it isn’t.

//Where was the opposition to ‘Blair’s War’?//

You tell me, bainbrig. Tony Blair was leading the country.

[spathiphyllum]

"the actual figure for rough sleepers in the UK is just shy of 5000 - of which a proportion will be ex-servicemen. "

There are WAYY more than 5000 homeless people.

"There is another group that does not appear in any official statistics - so-called "hidden homeless" people. The charity Crisis has estimated that in early 2015 there were 3.52 million homeless adults "concealed" within households in England."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39745253

[mushroom25]

//"the actual figure for rough sleepers in the UK is just shy of 5000 - of which a proportion will be ex-servicemen. " //

Spath, the words "rough sleepers" and "homeless" are not necessarily synonymous, indeed the link you posted (from 18m ago) makes the same point. read my post again.

[spathiphyllum]

To empaths mushroom it's one and the same.. Rough sleeper, IE, outside, not in a bed or behind a closed door is pretty much being homeless. It's a similar lifestyle.