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Austerity Intensifies.
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News item. Now we have baby banks. Food, nappies cots and toys.
Disgraceful.
I wish we could have retrospective prosecutions for the bankers and the other elites responsible for the 2008 crash, including the so called regulators who failed us all.
These Tories are shameless.
Disgraceful.
I wish we could have retrospective prosecutions for the bankers and the other elites responsible for the 2008 crash, including the so called regulators who failed us all.
These Tories are shameless.
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Meanwhile whilst we "moan" about "horseterritory" and the Yellow Vests riot and demonstrate to no avail the Eurocrats award themselves a nice Christmas pay rise and Juncker gets even drunker. They certainly do not give a damn what we think do they?
""European Commissioners and other eurocrats are receiving substantial pay rises for Christmas, while the unelected executive’s controversial president Jean-Claude Juncker has been pictured having to be “supported by two employees” at a festive dinner in Vienna.
Top grade bureaucrats’ pay increases are being applied retroactively from July 2018, taking Juncker, as President of the European Commission, and fellow mandarin Donald Tusk, as President of the European Council, to salaries of around €32,700 a month.
This works out as a boost of roughly €6,600 extra over the course of a year, compared to the annual sum of their previous monthly earnings.""
""European Commissioners and other eurocrats are receiving substantial pay rises for Christmas, while the unelected executive’s controversial president Jean-Claude Juncker has been pictured having to be “supported by two employees” at a festive dinner in Vienna.
Top grade bureaucrats’ pay increases are being applied retroactively from July 2018, taking Juncker, as President of the European Commission, and fellow mandarin Donald Tusk, as President of the European Council, to salaries of around €32,700 a month.
This works out as a boost of roughly €6,600 extra over the course of a year, compared to the annual sum of their previous monthly earnings.""
Theland, //We have six children, and my wife stayed home to look after them and the home, and I worked to provide. We never took a penny from anybody.//
So you keep telling us. What do you want? A medal? Your kids, your responsibility. The rest of us provide for our families too, Theland – except those who expect, and get, a free ride.
//You really are bitter aren't you?//
Not that this is about me but, no Theland, I am not bitter. Just sick of people playing the system – and sick of people encouraging them to play the system and excusing their abuse of the system.
//You make too many assumptions not based on any evidence other than anecdotal//
I do? How do you know that? You haven’t the foggiest notion of my life.
//if your vicar friend shares your views, then she should be ashamed of herself, for betraying her calling.//
So wanting to care for those in need rather than those who take whatever they can get for free is wrong? You need to examine your principles – and thoroughly.
//And my responses don't please you so you dare to treat this like a cross examination.//
You start thread laying into whatever or whoever it suits you to lay into and then start throwing insults when others disagree with you. I’ll respond to your posts as I see fit.
I’ll repeat Rockrose’s question about the painter and decorator you’re so concerned about. You seem to have missed it. Where was his insurance?
So you keep telling us. What do you want? A medal? Your kids, your responsibility. The rest of us provide for our families too, Theland – except those who expect, and get, a free ride.
//You really are bitter aren't you?//
Not that this is about me but, no Theland, I am not bitter. Just sick of people playing the system – and sick of people encouraging them to play the system and excusing their abuse of the system.
//You make too many assumptions not based on any evidence other than anecdotal//
I do? How do you know that? You haven’t the foggiest notion of my life.
//if your vicar friend shares your views, then she should be ashamed of herself, for betraying her calling.//
So wanting to care for those in need rather than those who take whatever they can get for free is wrong? You need to examine your principles – and thoroughly.
//And my responses don't please you so you dare to treat this like a cross examination.//
You start thread laying into whatever or whoever it suits you to lay into and then start throwing insults when others disagree with you. I’ll respond to your posts as I see fit.
I’ll repeat Rockrose’s question about the painter and decorator you’re so concerned about. You seem to have missed it. Where was his insurance?
“We have six children,…”
“I think I was responsible.”
Then you think wrong. Having six children, whether you can afford to do so or not, is irresponsible. Over population is the biggest threat to mankind and will make “Global Warming” (or whatever it is currently called) seem like a walk in the park.
“We never took a penny from anybody.”
Didn’t get any Child Benefit, then? Current weekly rates for Child Benefit for a person with six children is £89.20 or £4,638 pa (tax free, natch). This is equivalent to all the tax and NI paid by someone earning £25,000 a year. I won’t go into Child Tax Credits or Working Tax Credits.
There is no doubt that there are people who, through no fault of their own, hit trouble and need help. That is what the benefit system should be for. But there is also no doubt that living on benefits (plus a bit of “cash in hand” casual work to “get a bit of money for Christmas”) is a lifestyle choice of large numbers of people. Working regularly for a living is simply not on their agenda. Yet they roam round towns with their mobile phones clutched in their hands, they frequent coffee shops, bookies and pubs, they lead the life they believe they are entitled to lead. Unlike those in work, when deciding whether or not to have more children, financial considerations are not a concern for them as their income is adjusted accordingly and very often larger accommodation is provided as necessary. There are large numbers of such people, not just the few you would have us believe.
It is unfortunate that the activities of these people make the pot of money available for those in genuine need smaller. But it is clearly unsustainable to continue to dole out ever increasing sums of money to people who will not make any contribution. The “austerity” being complained of is a manifestation of that unsustainability and to continue to blame events of ten or eleven years ago is disingenuous.
“I think I was responsible.”
Then you think wrong. Having six children, whether you can afford to do so or not, is irresponsible. Over population is the biggest threat to mankind and will make “Global Warming” (or whatever it is currently called) seem like a walk in the park.
“We never took a penny from anybody.”
Didn’t get any Child Benefit, then? Current weekly rates for Child Benefit for a person with six children is £89.20 or £4,638 pa (tax free, natch). This is equivalent to all the tax and NI paid by someone earning £25,000 a year. I won’t go into Child Tax Credits or Working Tax Credits.
There is no doubt that there are people who, through no fault of their own, hit trouble and need help. That is what the benefit system should be for. But there is also no doubt that living on benefits (plus a bit of “cash in hand” casual work to “get a bit of money for Christmas”) is a lifestyle choice of large numbers of people. Working regularly for a living is simply not on their agenda. Yet they roam round towns with their mobile phones clutched in their hands, they frequent coffee shops, bookies and pubs, they lead the life they believe they are entitled to lead. Unlike those in work, when deciding whether or not to have more children, financial considerations are not a concern for them as their income is adjusted accordingly and very often larger accommodation is provided as necessary. There are large numbers of such people, not just the few you would have us believe.
It is unfortunate that the activities of these people make the pot of money available for those in genuine need smaller. But it is clearly unsustainable to continue to dole out ever increasing sums of money to people who will not make any contribution. The “austerity” being complained of is a manifestation of that unsustainability and to continue to blame events of ten or eleven years ago is disingenuous.
// You seem to have missed it. Where was his insurance?//
oh interesting point discussed in the high court this week
The case that made a firm liable for malicious acts of its employees ( note - one party insured and one party rather obviously not) was not dependent oon who the insured party was .... even tho Denning in the seventies had spent a long time trying to do so [precisely that]
just saying
( cries off of - foo dat! - dat not true ! where dat come from? I only say true fings and I didnt say dat! and so on and so)
oh interesting point discussed in the high court this week
The case that made a firm liable for malicious acts of its employees ( note - one party insured and one party rather obviously not) was not dependent oon who the insured party was .... even tho Denning in the seventies had spent a long time trying to do so [precisely that]
just saying
( cries off of - foo dat! - dat not true ! where dat come from? I only say true fings and I didnt say dat! and so on and so)
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