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Free Speech Deemed Contentious.
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Our tradition of free speech is threatened by a growing trend find within it reasons to be offended where no offence was ever intended.
Such offence is manufactured, and validated by a subjective redefinition of meaning.
Surely this trend has its roots in post modernism and relativism, where any word or phrase can be deemed to be offensive when no offence was ever intended.
Will this idea ever be challenged successfully to reinstate the value and protection of free speech as it has always be understood?
Such offence is manufactured, and validated by a subjective redefinition of meaning.
Surely this trend has its roots in post modernism and relativism, where any word or phrase can be deemed to be offensive when no offence was ever intended.
Will this idea ever be challenged successfully to reinstate the value and protection of free speech as it has always be understood?
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Whether "misinformation" should be allowed, is debatable, I think. What happens when something is changed or proven wrong? Does everything online need to be changed too? Reinstating previous posts, etc.
The only thing I personally disagree with, is when provable truth and facts are censored, in case they are "offensive". Which could really relate to anything.
I also think free speech should be encouraged as much as possible.... but that doesn't mean nobody else should be able to argue with it.
The only thing I personally disagree with, is when provable truth and facts are censored, in case they are "offensive". Which could really relate to anything.
I also think free speech should be encouraged as much as possible.... but that doesn't mean nobody else should be able to argue with it.
Haven’t read the whole thread (so apologies if I’m going over old ground).
Normally I couldn’t give a rat’s bum about idiots wittering about the evils of 5G - if it keeps them off the streets then that’s fine.
The problem at the moment is that they’ve (utterly spuriously) linked it to Covid-19 and are encouraging other idiots to endanger life and vital communications by burning down phone masts - most of which don’t even have 5G. They torched one over here in Ireland which was being upgraded to provide decent 4G signal capacity to a hospital - in the process knocking out data imaging comms and endangering lives.
You just can’t afford to give the oxygen of publicity, or the fake respectability donated to these fruit-loops by deluded TV presenters wittering on about ‘seeing both sides’.
I’m in favour of free speech - but against it being abused to kill people.
Normally I couldn’t give a rat’s bum about idiots wittering about the evils of 5G - if it keeps them off the streets then that’s fine.
The problem at the moment is that they’ve (utterly spuriously) linked it to Covid-19 and are encouraging other idiots to endanger life and vital communications by burning down phone masts - most of which don’t even have 5G. They torched one over here in Ireland which was being upgraded to provide decent 4G signal capacity to a hospital - in the process knocking out data imaging comms and endangering lives.
You just can’t afford to give the oxygen of publicity, or the fake respectability donated to these fruit-loops by deluded TV presenters wittering on about ‘seeing both sides’.
I’m in favour of free speech - but against it being abused to kill people.
"At last!
They censored some idiot saying 5G caused CV. This was in the public interest. "
Absolute falsehood Zacs, that was NEVER claimed. You apply the same brush of 'daft' paint, the same broad, all covering many on this forum apply.
https:/
Free speech be danged, yeah ?
They censored some idiot saying 5G caused CV. This was in the public interest. "
Absolute falsehood Zacs, that was NEVER claimed. You apply the same brush of 'daft' paint, the same broad, all covering many on this forum apply.
https:/
Free speech be danged, yeah ?
You’ve lost me again (and I think yourself this time). You yourself mentioned 5G and then provided a link. You’ve now provided (I think) a slightly different link which is a transcript of someone mentioning 5G in connection with coronavirus and explains that the this was a ‘potentially harmful statement’.
The caller (a nurse) said someone had fallen over due to 5G.
The caller (a nurse) said someone had fallen over due to 5G.
"lost me again.........."
That would not seem that difficult.
The Link was an example of "freedom of speech" which is largely what this thread is about.
And my post specifically was about Ofcom having a 'conflict of interest'. ( you know Zacs, like the SEC, and the 'big four' global auditing firms. i.e. monitoring the very people who fund them)
That would not seem that difficult.
The Link was an example of "freedom of speech" which is largely what this thread is about.
And my post specifically was about Ofcom having a 'conflict of interest'. ( you know Zacs, like the SEC, and the 'big four' global auditing firms. i.e. monitoring the very people who fund them)
Strewth - I know it's standard practice on AB to move the goalposts if you don't like (or can't refute) a detailed reply to a contentious topic - but if these get moved any faster/further they'll not even be a blur on the horizon.
[ But to address the totally random 'Uckfield Issue' - for me the only worrysome thing is that Ofcom chose to spend quite so much time/effort on a report into a broadcast on a community station which will have been heard by (at most) two men and a dog - and the dog had only tuned in by mistake.
Ofcom is clearly overstaffed and has learnt its trade about "concentrating on the easy stuff whilst failing dismally in its core brief" from the equally useless UKBA ]
[ But to address the totally random 'Uckfield Issue' - for me the only worrysome thing is that Ofcom chose to spend quite so much time/effort on a report into a broadcast on a community station which will have been heard by (at most) two men and a dog - and the dog had only tuned in by mistake.
Ofcom is clearly overstaffed and has learnt its trade about "concentrating on the easy stuff whilst failing dismally in its core brief" from the equally useless UKBA ]
After reading through this thread, I'm more convinced than ever that Ab Editor has contributed under a different user name. How can I prove it? I can't. How can that user prove otherwise? He/She can't either. But I'm right anyway.
// The caller (a nurse) said someone had fallen over due to 5G.//
not fanciful
if a 5G hater chops down a 5G and it falls on you
you would probably fall over too
er this thread is about the vexed question of freedom of speech. Whether various completely deranged ABers can counsel the gullible to carry out their mad and crazy plans and then deny any responsibility ? - and even deny ever saying dumb cluck things at all? not me miss etc
or not - after a death from chloroquine, I am all right with censoring ideas that fish cleaner (*) is a protection against corona
(*) er contain chloroquine folks ! [ and is bad for you]
not fanciful
if a 5G hater chops down a 5G and it falls on you
you would probably fall over too
er this thread is about the vexed question of freedom of speech. Whether various completely deranged ABers can counsel the gullible to carry out their mad and crazy plans and then deny any responsibility ? - and even deny ever saying dumb cluck things at all? not me miss etc
or not - after a death from chloroquine, I am all right with censoring ideas that fish cleaner (*) is a protection against corona
(*) er contain chloroquine folks ! [ and is bad for you]
sorry the Ab Editor has shown no evidence of having read the Bible in the last fifty years -
ephē Egō phōnē boōntos en tē erēmō Euthynate tēn hodon Kyriou,
Ἐγὼ φωνὴ βοῶντος ἐν τῇ ἐρήμῳ Εὐθύνατε τὴν ὁδὸν Κυρίου,
sozza Naomi - just a little frou-frou from John 1 (23)
ephē Egō phōnē boōntos en tē erēmō Euthynate tēn hodon Kyriou,
Ἐγὼ φωνὴ βοῶντος ἐν τῇ ἐρήμῳ Εὐθύνατε τὴν ὁδὸν Κυρίου,
sozza Naomi - just a little frou-frou from John 1 (23)
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