Is It Almost Time For People To Take Responsibility For Themselves?

[naomi24]

Isolation is creating serious social and personal problems so since the situation with the virus seems to be stabilising somewhat, when this current session of lockdown ends should people be allowed to take responsibility for themselves? Whilst the vulnerable may - and must - choose to remain in isolation, should those who aren’t designated vulnerable be allowed to return to work and to normal life with businesses, pubs and clubs opening up again resulting in life, for them - and the economy - returning to normal?

[naomi24]

Yes, Zacs - for those who choose it.

FF, yes. Children of key workers still go to school every day.

[Zacs-Master]

But don’t you think that would have the danger of undermining all the hard work being undertaken by the very people you mentioned earlier?

[naomi24]

No.

[Zacs-Master]

Not even if those who ‘choose’ (not sure how that would work....maybe you could confirm) to go about their daily business cause a resurgence of cases?

[naomi24]

//not sure how that would work....maybe you could confirm//

Pleasure. Shop owners could choose to reopen shops - shoppers could choose to shop. It would work something like that.

[Zacs-Master]

But wouldn’t the Govt have to announce something which said people were able to choose?

And what about my point on a second wave?

[naomi24]

I think it would work.

[woofgang]

I don't

[jim360]

That settles it. Naomi thinks it would work.

[Zacs-Master]

Don’t worry, N. We’ve all posted things late at night, only to wake up and realise it was complete rubbish.

[Ellipsis]

We are at war. Coronavirus is the enemy, invading our country, killing our people.

Some would like to lower arms, surrender, let it roam free across our country to do its worst on our people. Others are prepared to put up with varying degrees of inconvenience to fight the battle.

[ichkeria]

The plan to ease the lockdown as revealed in the papers (the Sunday Times anyway) envisages schools opening gradually first, with pubs and clubs last.
But over 70s advised to self isolate until a vaccine becomes available. This latter seems sensible and surely the epitome of taking responsible for oneself

[naomi24]

Jim, //That settles it. Naomi thinks it would work. //

This is a discussion. Spiteful swipes are uncalled for.

[jno]

Ellipsis, yes, this day exactly 80 years ago: Nothing's happened in this phoney war, let's just stop all the gloom and doom, call it off and resume normal life.

[Togo]

Whilst millions of UK residents are voluntarily staying indoors, not travelling, and generally doing as bidden by the authorities there are still 15,000 or so incoming people, from some very virus riven Countries, flying into the UK daily without even the most cursory of examinations or assessments at the airports(Mainly Heathrow) Indeed people are flying into Heathrow from areas that have been prevented from transporting people into certain European Countries from those places to then fly onwards to the City they wanted to reach in the first place after an overnight stay.

[Zacs-Master]

Sorry ‘spiteful swipe’.

[naomi24]

Zacs, I didn't say 'that settles it'. I repeat, for your benefit, this is a discussion. Spiteful swipes are uncalled for.

[diddlydo]

As a 71 year old I've respected the lockdown to the letter but......if anyone instructs me to self-isolate until a vaccine is found I shall revolt as I could die from something totally unrelated before a vaccine is found.

[AuntPollyGrey]

As far as I can gather the lockdown was put in place so that the NHS would not be overwhelmed by CV-19 patients. Well that has not happened. It may have gone up now but there are still only a handful -under 100 beds- taken up in the new 4000 bed Nightingale hospital in London.
I believe many hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, have had the virus with little or no effects. Those shielding and vulnerable should take responsibility for their own well-being and remain away from social gatherings, but I think the lockdown should now be slowly lifted for those not classed in the vulnerable categories, otherwise the UK is going to be left, economically and socially, in a very dark place for many years to come.