What Would Happen If Trump Loses In November 2020?

[Lombax]

I've heard it would be very bad, but why?

[naomi24]

//Time for a change to old white males getting the job//

An old white male getting the job was a change. Before him there was a young black man, before him a young white man, and before him another young white man.

[Jackdaw33]

For old men in top jobs you need look no further than the papacy.
Benedict XVI elected @ 78, Francis @ 76.

[ToraToraTora]

mozz: "You sure about that 3T? I'd have thought that losing the black vote would be bigly damaging for Donny. " - have a day off, most blacks either don't vote at all or vote Democrat. Nope all this lawlessness will put off the sensible law abiding whites that voted Trump and may, up to now, have been regretting it and thinking of changing. Nope I'm afraid, the imbeciles have played into Trumps hands. Ok so they nicked a TV from a hard working retailer but brainless idiots they are the lost the big game. TBH the Crats were probably losing anyway but this has made certain of it.

[ToraToraTora]

here's the chart for last time:
https://www.people-press.org/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/
91% of blacks voted democrat but the interesting figure is only 54% of whites voted trump so there is a rich seam of whites who have just been mightily angered.

[Gromit]

Naomi

54 and 47 years old isn’t young.

A 77 year old would be the oldest President ever.

[jim360]

I'm not sure it's sensible for anybody to say that Trump certainly will (or certainly won't) win. I'd suggest that the "law and order" stuff merely solidifies the support he already had, rather than forces people to switch in his favour. Polling seems to suggest that there is a bigger increase in opposition to Trump, and we've seen a few Republicans come out against him.

Still, he's shrugged off worse before. What's mishandling a pandemic, touting BS conspiracies, and just generally being tone-deaf to the cries for major policing reform going to change about that?

[ToraToraTora]

jim, " I'd suggest that the "law and order" stuff merely solidifies the support he already had, rather than forces people to switch in his favour." - he doesn't need that, people switched to him last time. Read what I said above, the only way the Democrats would win is if people who already switched to Trump switched back. They may well have been going to until mob rule broke out.

[dannyk13]

It would depend on Joe Biden's view of trade deals etc. with the UK.

[aelmpvw]

nothing would happen, he'd probably refuse to go ...

[Peter Pedant]

webbo he wont
PP - he may - seen the nooz today ?
the seventy y old apparently "was pretending and it was a set up by ANtiFa"
even Mitch McConnell the hardline trumper has said 'er er er'

[Peter Pedant]

// They may well have been going to until mob rule broke out.// TTTthe wise

well I think the mob in the White House are pretty much out of control! oops sozza - TTT was wisely alluding to the crowds who think that kneeling on anyones neck is a BAD idea
my bad

[iluvmargie]

23:05 54 and 47 is young for a President compared to a 70 year old.

[Bobbisox1]

He’d tell , the world and the American electorate it was all
FAKE NEWS

[Ken4155]

He'd tweet that his fellow Americans have just made a mistake. A big mistake. The biggest. The biggest mistake that anyone ever made in the whole wide world.

[jim360]

// Read what I said above, the only way the Democrats would win is if people who already switched to Trump switched back. //

That seems wrong: there were approximately 45% of registered voters in 2016 who didn't turn out. It wouldn't take many first-time voters to swing it. Also, as has been pointed out a few times, Trump's 2016 victory was not really due to popular support, so much as support in the right places. That may play into his hands again, I suppose, because it's easy to imagine a scenario with turnout rocketing in New York, California etc, leading to a landslide popular vote win for Biden without really affecting the college. But the idea that Trump is certain to win seems a stretch.

[ToraToraTora]

I feel another wager coming on jim, you in? £20 to charity, as before? I say Trump retains the Whitehouse.

[zebo]

How far has Jarad got with postpoing the election due to Covid? When he was asked he looked shifty and didn't say no!
I think that Trump will win, he speaks for a lot of Americans especially in the fly-over country that we hear little from. The interesting question is 2024, the Democrats don't seem to have been developing viable candidates if Joe Biden is all they have and the Republicans don't have anyone either,

[jim360]

Let's suppose Trump wins: what chance that there will be a Trump/Republican-led campaign to repeal the two-term limit of the 22nd Amendment?