Do All Lefties Hate Their Own Country?

[ToraToraTora]

....or is it just the UK ones?

[Paigntonian]

Do you think that Sturgeon, who's on the Left, hates her country? Do you believe Starmer, on the soft Left, hates his country? Do you think that John McDoanald, on Labour's Left, hates his country. I'm a Tory but your ridiculous supposition is insulting to many.

[anneasquith]

Naomi, my apologies, I presumed that it being ttt the thread was in news.
I’ll ban myself for 20 minutes.

[drmorgans]

So do you think inheritance tax, capital gains tax etc. should be abolished?

[naomi24]

My pleasure, anneasquith. Enjoy.

Paigntonian, I think TTT is asking whether the left abroad are as critical of their countries as the left in this country seem to be.

[FatticusInch]

Jeezus, arguing with himself now in a vain attempt at portraying individuality.

[naomi24]

drmorgans, who is your question for?

[drmorgans]

There are certain so-called "left" countries where it would not be a good idea to express a critical opinion, but then again there are a number of "right" countries where that's equally true.

[ToraToraTora]

paigntonian: "Do you think that Sturgeon, who's on the Left, hates her country?" - no but she's a nationalist, they tend not to be left wing"
" Do you believe Starmer, on the soft Left, hates his country?" - no as explained above they are not who I am talking about.
"Do you think that John McDoanald, on Labour's Left, hates his country." - he's pro IRA so yes.

[FatticusInch]

naomi24
//Paigntonian, I think TTT is asking whether the left abroad are as critical of their countries as the left in this country seem to be.//

As ever, the confusion of the hard right to distinguish between ‘country’ and ‘government’ is all too apparent.

[Paigntonian]

Tora: You don't think Sturgeon is on the Left?

[naomi24]

As always. the confusion is all yours, fatticusinch. Neither the left nor the right confine their criticism to governments.

[sandyRoe]

TTT,
Were the left wing politicians who asked: 'What's wrong with the situation in N Ireland that motivates people to risk life and liberty to try and bring about change?' , traitors?
No, they were looking for a way to bring peace.
Thatcher had lines of communication with the IRA. She had the same aim in mind, to bring peace.

[ToraToraTora]

paigtonian, hard to tell, she's a swivel eyed extremist.
BTW fatti thinks you and I are the same person! PMSL!

[sandyRoe]

You may be and not know it. Have you heard of multiple personalities?

[youngmafbog]

No, I know a fair few proper lefties who dont hate their country, in fact many want the same as me but just to get to it in a different way.

I think a lot of the issue is the Liberal elite whom both 'proper' lefties and 'proper' righties hate due to their continued wrecking of the country. And it is they who have infiltrated the establishments, yes there's a few commies too but not enough to worry about.

[Khandro]

Leftish people are always glum because things are never as perfect as they want them to be.
Rightish people have more fun.

[drmorgans]

The righties I know are a miserable bunch. They don't earn enough, they own too few houses, and their bosses don't realise how brilliant they are and promote them.

[FatticusInch]

ToraToraTora
//paigtonian, hard to tell, she's a swivel eyed extremist.
BTW fatti thinks you and I are the same person! PMSL!//

Oh I don’t think it at all…...PMSL

[youngmafbog]

You dont actually know any Tories do you?

There are plenty of left wingers who want what you have just described too. It's only human nature to want to better yourself so the species survives. Those that dont will fall by the wayside and hopefully not procreate dragging the rest of us down with them. Darwin at its best.

[Untitled]

"Why are you ruling out his being an annoying little gob-*** as a motive for the alleged slap he got."

because the reason people consider him an annoying gob**** is because of his opinions.... his attacker held extreme anti-left and anti-gay views