Who Really Have the Truth?

[goodlife]

Would God use more than one organization to dispense his truths in these “last days”? Has God ever used more than one during any other period of judgment?

[beso]

Once history got going it became a lot more difficult to claim miracles so this conveniently fitted in with Mohammed's scheme.

Really though it was left a bit late because history paints a very different picture of the man so many men now are given his name in the Muslim World.

[beso]

naomi24 \\Beso, actually I thought of the similarity with Islam when I read Goodlife's post. They were all first.//

That is right. We are all born as Muslims.... Oh sorry wrong religion. We were all born Jehovah's Witnesses.

False religion has led us to believe in the guidance of the wrong people. Only [Oh, I give up ... insert your doctrine here] knows the True Truth.

[goodlife]

Like I said We live in a God-dishonoring world in which teachers of false religion, as well as agnostics and atheists, mock the Creator with their speech.(John 8:44)is the same today.

One day is a thousand years and a thousand years as one day in Gods eyes it is not even a week, but you can’t recognize that and those religions that are false let alone the true one. Sad.

[beso]

@ godlife: Would you like to re-express that in coherent English?

[naomi24]

Goodlife, there's really no point in reiterating what you've already said. Quotes from the bible or the Watchtower didn't work the first time, so it stands to reason they have little chance of working a second time. If you want to be taken seriously, you have to move on, answer people's questions, and explain why you're saying what you're saying. In other words - enter into discussion - and that means talking to others rather than at them.

[goodlife]

A couple in England recently wrote: ‘We have always read and loved the Bible and realized that it was God’s Word. However, like so many others, we did not properly understand it. Then, when we received “The Watchtower,” the key to the Bible’s message came into our hands. It has meant so much to us.

What many “Watchtower” readers feel goes far beyond gratitude for the help received in coping with a certain problem. A man in Spain put it this way: ‘In this “enlightened” 20th century, it is often very difficult to see things from God’s point of view, from the vantage point of the Sovereign Lord of the universe, Jehovah. Yet “The Watchtower” has faithfully helped me to do just that over the past 30 years.’ An Italian reader concluded: ‘The way it has upheld and defended before the whole world the name of Jehovah, the authenticity of his Word, his right to rule—all of this shows me that it has been an instrument used by Jehovah to dispense spiritual light.’ And another one wrote: ‘The day “The Watchtower” first came to my home, I read it, and immediately a window was opened toward a wonderful future. I had always been taught such things as immortality of the soul, fiery hell and Trinity. But after reading “The Watchtower” for an hour, I cried out, “I have found the truth,” and I have never left it.’

[seadogg]

I see the local JW's are dishing the Watchtower again. They have been round twice in the last fortnight. Are we so wicked? Of course, but this is also an affluent area where they hope for rich pickings.

[naomi24]

Goodlife, So, you’ve come up with a few anecdotes from people unknown. That means absolutely nothing. I could have been commissioned to write that – not that I’d have accepted the job - so it’s hardly evidence that what you’re saying is right. So examine the evidence. Tell me who reported Jesus’ trial.

[RATTER15]

>>IF THE idea of judgment day frightens you,<<

Absolutely terrified :-))

[Truthabounds]

Ratter - well it frightens me sometimes and I have a strong faith & love for God, but the Apostle Paul wrote @ 1 Corinthians 10 v 12 "consequently let him that thinks he is standing beware that he does not fall".

[naomi24]

Truthabounds, two issues. Are you quite sure St Paul wasn’t referring to you there, and do you believe everything he said?

[goodlife]

You may find it hard to believe that someone who is mock and reproached could be happy. Yet, it must be true, since Jesus himself said so and the word “martyr,” which is of Greek origin, literally means “witness,” for many were the early Christian witnesses who endured persecution, even martyrdom, rather than abandon their faith. Paul himself was involved in such matters,

[naomi24]

Goodlife, People make themselves martyrs for all sorts of reasons - not least Muslim extremists - and they are certainly no less devout than you. On 9/11 there were none so faithful as the people who hijacked those planes. Does that make them right?

[goodlife]

What good is God’s Word, the Bible, unless it is read—more than that, unless it is understood? For how can the Bible increase our love and faith in a God and Jesus Christ when we do not understand what we are reading?

And most important of all is it to apply the Bible’s to our lives.

The word “disciple” literally means a learner or a pupil, and God’s Son on the night before his death, told those whom he had trained and taught: “By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.”—John 13:35.

Yes,love of that kind is rare, so rare that it would make Jesus’ true pupils or disciples stand out among all other persons on earth and be their distinguishing mark.
As it did in Jesus’ day; does it today? Well even though these had mature minds able to understand on. // 9/11 there were none so faithful as the people who hijacked those planes. Does that make them right?// NO

You look at the newspapers, listen to the radio reports, or just examine the scene around you wherever you may be. Do you not see what the apostle Paul said you would, when he wrote: (2 Tim. 3:1-5) Why, Jesus foretold that the lack of true love would be so great, said: “And because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off.(Matt. 24:12)

Of course,for true Christian love is by no means gullible. The Bible exhorts us: “Keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling . . . , and avoid them.”—Romans 16:17.

[naomi24]

Some good telling us what the bible says about those who cause divisions. You don't seem to understand that you're causing divisions.

[goodlife]

I don't think you will ever understand.

[RATTER15]

Goodlife, you will clearly never understand! get the blinkers off.

[naomi24]

goodlife, make no mistake - I understand.

[goodlife]

yea,God has given the animals instinctive understanding, each according to its kind. Men may spend years gaining understanding of aerodynamics, but the falcon instinctively knows just how to “read” and utilize the different types of air currents. (Job 39:26)

[naomi24]

Maybe I have instinctive understanding. ;o)