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HOW THE BIBLE CAN CHANGED PEOPLE LIFE ?
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Some people soon realized that if I was to please God, I would need to make some changes in my lifestyle. For example, I learned from the Bible in says at 1 Corinthians 6:9, 10: “Don’t you realize that this is not the way to live? Unjust people who don’t care about God will not be joining in his kingdom. Those who use and abuse each other, use and abuse sex, use and abuse the earth and everything in it, don’t qualify as citizens in God’s kingdom.”
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For some it works and that is all that matters.
01:10 Wed 21st Nov 2012
1. Hitler described himself as a Christian but he was a liar and a murderer.
2. When I first came on here and read the posts it was the atheists who were being judgemental. If you don't like it perhaps you ought to stop?
3. The majority of people today are atheists and like all atheists they think Christianity is fair game besides which it sell more papers than if it was an atheist.
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2. When I first came on here and read the posts it was the atheists who were being judgemental. If you don't like it perhaps you ought to stop?
3. The majority of people today are atheists and like all atheists they think Christianity is fair game besides which it sell more papers than if it was an atheist.
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Here for information, are the commandments of Jesus which support the title of the thread, "How the Bible Can Change Peoples Life."
1. "Forgive everybody of all their offences against you."
2. "You must be born again."
3. "Abide in me, and let me abide in you."
4. "Let people see your good works." (do not hide your light under a basket.)
5. "End disputes quickly."
6. "Whatever causes you to sin, get rid of it."
7. "Do not swear oaths at all."
8. "Do not return offence for offence." (Turn the other cheek.)
9. "Give what people ask of you, and give more than is required." (Go the extra mile.)
10. "Love your enemies and those who work against you."
11. "Give to the poor to please god, not to gain approval from other people."
12. "Pray privately and simply, not to impress other people."
13. "Make your prayers be like the Lord’s Prayer."
14. "When you fast, do it secretly, not for show."
15. "Store up your treasures in heaven, not on earth."
16. "Do not worry about your material needs."
17. "Do not worry about the future."
18. "Make god your highest priority, and he will take care of all your needs."
19. "Do not judge other people." (Judge not, lest ye be judged.)
20. "Do not give holy things to dogs or cast your pearls before swine."
21. "Ask god for whatever you want to have." (seek, and ye shall find.)
22. "Feed the hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless, comfort those in distress."
23. "Follow the narrow path to life." (enter by the narrow gate.)
24. "Beware of false prophets."
25. "Exercise power over unclean spirits."
26. "Love little children, do not despise them."
27. "Do not take the titles 'master' or 'father' for yourself."
28. "Resolve disputes in an orderly way, like this . . . "
29. "Do not oppose other believers in Christ who are not in your group."
30. "Have total faith in god for everything."
31. "Be like the good Samaritan." (go, and do likewise.)
32. "Love other people as i have loved you"
33. "Eat bread and drink wine in remembrance of me."
34. "Wash one another's feet."
35. "Be merciful."
36. "Go and teach all nations, baptising them."
37. "Keep my commandments."
38. "Be prepared for your master to return."
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1. "Forgive everybody of all their offences against you."
2. "You must be born again."
3. "Abide in me, and let me abide in you."
4. "Let people see your good works." (do not hide your light under a basket.)
5. "End disputes quickly."
6. "Whatever causes you to sin, get rid of it."
7. "Do not swear oaths at all."
8. "Do not return offence for offence." (Turn the other cheek.)
9. "Give what people ask of you, and give more than is required." (Go the extra mile.)
10. "Love your enemies and those who work against you."
11. "Give to the poor to please god, not to gain approval from other people."
12. "Pray privately and simply, not to impress other people."
13. "Make your prayers be like the Lord’s Prayer."
14. "When you fast, do it secretly, not for show."
15. "Store up your treasures in heaven, not on earth."
16. "Do not worry about your material needs."
17. "Do not worry about the future."
18. "Make god your highest priority, and he will take care of all your needs."
19. "Do not judge other people." (Judge not, lest ye be judged.)
20. "Do not give holy things to dogs or cast your pearls before swine."
21. "Ask god for whatever you want to have." (seek, and ye shall find.)
22. "Feed the hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless, comfort those in distress."
23. "Follow the narrow path to life." (enter by the narrow gate.)
24. "Beware of false prophets."
25. "Exercise power over unclean spirits."
26. "Love little children, do not despise them."
27. "Do not take the titles 'master' or 'father' for yourself."
28. "Resolve disputes in an orderly way, like this . . . "
29. "Do not oppose other believers in Christ who are not in your group."
30. "Have total faith in god for everything."
31. "Be like the good Samaritan." (go, and do likewise.)
32. "Love other people as i have loved you"
33. "Eat bread and drink wine in remembrance of me."
34. "Wash one another's feet."
35. "Be merciful."
36. "Go and teach all nations, baptising them."
37. "Keep my commandments."
38. "Be prepared for your master to return."
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@Olly. You want your cake and you wish to eat it too.
Christians murder. Christians routinely disobey other areas of their codes to commit robbery, murder, false accounting, swindling, cheat, commit adultery and all the other actions described as a sin.And your religion has a get out clause - confess your sins and you will be accepted back into the fold.
There are very few if any examples of the church, of gods representatives- bishops, priests etc - excommunicating christians who commit such actions from their church.Those individuals are still considered christians.
We have the horrifying spectacle of a culture of denial, of coverup of the actions of a whole swathe of RC priests willing to abuse children in their care, and the church, gods institution, routinely covering up such abuses and protecting the abusers, shielding them from legal action, and allowing numbers of children to grow up damaged.
Unchristian acts committed by christians More importantly, inhumane acts, which run counter to the principles of the basic tenets of humanity. Christians often assert the moral highground by virtue of their teaching, but that is patently not true. We do not need christian teachings to be good, we just need to adhere to the basic codes of humanity, and the golden rule.
I have, and will continue to judge here. I judge as I find, and I am not constrained by a religion from doing so, unlike you.The religious claim a higher morality, claim they are better people and I want to make sure that those numerous examples of the religious hypocrisy that is displayed all the time is highlighted for all to see.
Your third point - "3. The majority of people today are atheists and like all atheists they think Christianity is fair game besides which it sell more papers than if it was an atheist." Is just the usual whining tosh that we have come to accept from those purporting to be christians here. It is a nonsense statement and it stinks of special pleading.
Your 38 rules for living are good and all, but are trumped by the golden rule of humanity. Do unto others as you would have done to you.
@Naomi - You can see, from Ollys point 29, why those of one religious sect will defend criticism of another sect, regardless.
Christians murder. Christians routinely disobey other areas of their codes to commit robbery, murder, false accounting, swindling, cheat, commit adultery and all the other actions described as a sin.And your religion has a get out clause - confess your sins and you will be accepted back into the fold.
There are very few if any examples of the church, of gods representatives- bishops, priests etc - excommunicating christians who commit such actions from their church.Those individuals are still considered christians.
We have the horrifying spectacle of a culture of denial, of coverup of the actions of a whole swathe of RC priests willing to abuse children in their care, and the church, gods institution, routinely covering up such abuses and protecting the abusers, shielding them from legal action, and allowing numbers of children to grow up damaged.
Unchristian acts committed by christians More importantly, inhumane acts, which run counter to the principles of the basic tenets of humanity. Christians often assert the moral highground by virtue of their teaching, but that is patently not true. We do not need christian teachings to be good, we just need to adhere to the basic codes of humanity, and the golden rule.
I have, and will continue to judge here. I judge as I find, and I am not constrained by a religion from doing so, unlike you.The religious claim a higher morality, claim they are better people and I want to make sure that those numerous examples of the religious hypocrisy that is displayed all the time is highlighted for all to see.
Your third point - "3. The majority of people today are atheists and like all atheists they think Christianity is fair game besides which it sell more papers than if it was an atheist." Is just the usual whining tosh that we have come to accept from those purporting to be christians here. It is a nonsense statement and it stinks of special pleading.
Your 38 rules for living are good and all, but are trumped by the golden rule of humanity. Do unto others as you would have done to you.
@Naomi - You can see, from Ollys point 29, why those of one religious sect will defend criticism of another sect, regardless.
@LG - I didn't post the Golden Rule, I nearly did because it headed the list, but I thought some bright-spark would tell me it was world-wide and not originally from Christ even though he taught it. I only wish people would follow it though but when it comes to loving your neighbour as yourself it doesn't seem to happen as I know only too well with my neighbours who are all atheists by the way and I don't see any love from any of them.
A Christian is someone who follows the teaching of Christ, so I would say that is the first requirement of being a Christian.
A person can only claim the moral high ground by being there. Unfortunately that rules out a lot of people who claim to be Christians. I agree with what you say although we need to remember there is another side to being a Christian as anyone and everyone can be a do-gooder, but doing good on its own doesn't make one a Christian, there is more to it than just doing good works.
I am more that happy to criticise other religions and frequently debate with the cults, some of whom call themselves Christians while at the same time denying the divinity of Christ although there is a difference between opposing someone and telling someone they acted in an unchristian way.
So you have a problem with the list do you?
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A Christian is someone who follows the teaching of Christ, so I would say that is the first requirement of being a Christian.
A person can only claim the moral high ground by being there. Unfortunately that rules out a lot of people who claim to be Christians. I agree with what you say although we need to remember there is another side to being a Christian as anyone and everyone can be a do-gooder, but doing good on its own doesn't make one a Christian, there is more to it than just doing good works.
I am more that happy to criticise other religions and frequently debate with the cults, some of whom call themselves Christians while at the same time denying the divinity of Christ although there is a difference between opposing someone and telling someone they acted in an unchristian way.
So you have a problem with the list do you?
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@Olly
Yes, I do have a problem with exhaustive lists of specific actions. Be excellent to each other could supplant all 38, is easier to remember, and offers less opportunity to wriggle through the cracks left by a list of 38 specifics.
I have other issues with such lists. Lists of aphorisms demand a literal interpretation. The religious always look to offer their own interpretation, which can differ according to specific religion.
"Ask god for whatever you want to have." - Literally, pray and it will magically appear. Only it doesn't.
"Do not worry about the future." - Unchristian to have a pension then.
"Exercise power over unclean spirits." - Meaningless
"Do not judge other people." - Routinely disabused by supposed christians, such as yourself for instance, when you claim christians are more moral than atheists and non christians.
"Love little children, do not despise them." - Some christians seem to have taken this as a mandate for sex abuse.
"Love your enemies and those who work against you."- Abused by those who practice sectarian killing- Christians killing Muslims in Egypt and Nigeria spring to mind.
"Have total faith in god for everything." - encourages the rejection of anything that contradicts the holy books of myth and legend.
"Wash one another's feet."- Used symbolically by the faithful to prove their humility. Little used otherwise, and pretty pointless for anything else.
I could go on.....
Yes, I do have a problem with exhaustive lists of specific actions. Be excellent to each other could supplant all 38, is easier to remember, and offers less opportunity to wriggle through the cracks left by a list of 38 specifics.
I have other issues with such lists. Lists of aphorisms demand a literal interpretation. The religious always look to offer their own interpretation, which can differ according to specific religion.
"Ask god for whatever you want to have." - Literally, pray and it will magically appear. Only it doesn't.
"Do not worry about the future." - Unchristian to have a pension then.
"Exercise power over unclean spirits." - Meaningless
"Do not judge other people." - Routinely disabused by supposed christians, such as yourself for instance, when you claim christians are more moral than atheists and non christians.
"Love little children, do not despise them." - Some christians seem to have taken this as a mandate for sex abuse.
"Love your enemies and those who work against you."- Abused by those who practice sectarian killing- Christians killing Muslims in Egypt and Nigeria spring to mind.
"Have total faith in god for everything." - encourages the rejection of anything that contradicts the holy books of myth and legend.
"Wash one another's feet."- Used symbolically by the faithful to prove their humility. Little used otherwise, and pretty pointless for anything else.
I could go on.....
@Olly - Happy to, as long as the religious stop preaching at the rest of us, assuming the mantle of greater moral fibre, and claiming that atheists and non-christians are more likely to be murderers than those examplars of humanity, the christians.
More than happy to stop picking holes in logical absurdities, when the evangelists stop promoting them. Happy to stop rubbishing their attempts to assert religious myth over scientific fact.
In other words, stop evangelising and I will stop criticising. :)
More than happy to stop picking holes in logical absurdities, when the evangelists stop promoting them. Happy to stop rubbishing their attempts to assert religious myth over scientific fact.
In other words, stop evangelising and I will stop criticising. :)
@LG - I'm responding to you and your posts that are so critical. It's rather like criticising a Rolls-Royce while extolling the virtues of a fiesta, not that there is anything wrong with a Fiesta but to chose that instead of the best, always provided people are up to it that is, has to be the wrong choice in my book.
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@Olly - When the religious stop attempting to impose their worldview on the rest of us, I will stop criticising. Simples! To use a phrase coined by a meerkat.
@Maggie - Once again, it seems the faithful wish to ringfence R&S from the rest of us, to protect it from criticism. Does not work that way. Religion has had and continues to exert a huge influence on society- A society we all have to live in, and while it has that influence or attempts to increase it, Atheists, Jedis, Humanists, Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, JW, Wiccans, Druids, Hindus - all have the right to contribute. Indeed, it could be considered their civic duty to do so.
It always amazes me how defensive you faithheads get, and how quickly you resort to appeals for censorship, to chill free speech and free expression...
@Maggie - Once again, it seems the faithful wish to ringfence R&S from the rest of us, to protect it from criticism. Does not work that way. Religion has had and continues to exert a huge influence on society- A society we all have to live in, and while it has that influence or attempts to increase it, Atheists, Jedis, Humanists, Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, JW, Wiccans, Druids, Hindus - all have the right to contribute. Indeed, it could be considered their civic duty to do so.
It always amazes me how defensive you faithheads get, and how quickly you resort to appeals for censorship, to chill free speech and free expression...
@LG - "Once again, it seems the faithful wish to ringfence R&S from the rest of us, to protect it from criticism. Does not work that way. Religion has had and continues to exert a huge influence on society- A society we all have to live in, and while it has that influence or attempts to increase it, Atheists, Jedis, Humanists, Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, JW, Wiccans, Druids, Hindus - all have the right to contribute. Indeed, it could be considered their civic duty to do so." (LazyGun)
Can you not see how hypocritical that is?
Can you not see how hypocritical that is?
If the Athiests were to suddenly decamp from this sub-section, what would we see?
All the Religionistas rubbing along together basking in the glow of their Godly comfort-blankets........re-affirming each other's views?
Or would there soon be division between the different faiths.....Christian v Muslim v Jew, etc........and then between the various sub-sections contained therein?
As some of the Godly are convinced that Atheism is itself a belief, why should not they then be entitled to come into this section and blow raspberries at the more volubly pious?
All the Religionistas rubbing along together basking in the glow of their Godly comfort-blankets........re-affirming each other's views?
Or would there soon be division between the different faiths.....Christian v Muslim v Jew, etc........and then between the various sub-sections contained therein?
As some of the Godly are convinced that Atheism is itself a belief, why should not they then be entitled to come into this section and blow raspberries at the more volubly pious?
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