Forced To Go Church .

[modeller]

What must it be like to be forced to go to church every week and have to profess/practice your faith again and again.? Even if you hate it.
I'm thinking of the Queen , all the royals and to a lesser extent senior MPs.

For some it must be a life sentence. How do they cope ?

[jim360]

I think the Queen at least likes to go to Church, so she probably doesn't mind. For others it can be incredibly frustrating. For a time it happened to me when I was younger - I'd just run off and hide in the toilet or something similar.

[magsmay]

what makes you think the Royal Family and senior MP's are non believers that hate going to church?

[Jeza]

I was forced to go to church until I was 16. I then said no. As for the Queen is she not the leader of the C of E. MP's well is it not follow my leader.

[murraymints]

HM is defender of the faith......heid honcho !

[China Doll]

It's entirely boring in the main. Until you get big and loud enough so that, man handling you out the door, in the car, through the church doors and then physically restraining your captive for an hour, seems not worth the effort of your mum ;o)

[modeller]

magsmay //what makes you think the Royal Family and senior MP's are non believers that hate going to church? //
And where did I say that ?

[modeller]

I've just been on the web and there is a list of MP atheists and they are all
left wingers , Labour , Marxists , Communists etc. Atlee and Calaghan being the only PMs. Amongst the present ones are Miliband, Skinner and
Clegg ( is he a left winger ). Kinnock is also listed .

Not a Tory in sight !

[modeller]

//. I think the Queen at least likes to go to Church, so she probably doesn't mind. // No one will ever know . For her it's a ritual duty , it goes with the job.

[jim360]

Of course we can know. She's a Christian, and not just because she has to be either.

[chrisgel]

Jim360 - A curious statement. How do you know this?

[jim360]

Well most of what she says in the Christmas messages is a giveaway. I mean, yes it's going to come in large part from a scriptwriter's pen. But she's hardly going to say anything she strongly disagrees with. No way she'd be saying any old rubbish that was put down without at least partially agreeing with it.

No, she's a Christian all right. Seems cynical to say otherwise.

[modeller]

jim Strange answer // She's a Christian ! //
So am I on paper ( baptism certificate ) but I'm an atheist.

Most people in this country are CofE or Catholic but 20 million of them are listed in the census as Atheist. and 90% of the population don't go to church .

[RATTER15]

I played in the Salvation Army band until I was about 12 and went to their services 3 times on a Sunday and twice during the week for band practice, I hated it but I went because nearly the whole of the Salvation Army in my town consisted of my family, from the officers to the entire band and band leaders. I didn't want to stop attending because I felt I was letting my family and traditions down, my Grandfather even played in the band at the funeral of William Booth. It wasn't until I started Bible study that I really started questioning these beliefs and tolerated it no longer and told my Bible teacher (my Cousin) that none of it makes sense and I couldn't believe it and I wanted to stop Bible classes, that went down like a lead balloon!! I never went back, I was out for good, best thing I ever done, I am however very proud of my roots, not so much for the religious side but for the immense good the Salvation Army does for so many people and mostly unpaid.

[modeller]

Ratter I bet you were baptised and a confirmed Christian .

So according to jim you couldn't possibly not go to church and definitely
not have left their ranks.

[jim360]

That's not what I said at all, modeller. On the other hand there's no reason to believe that all or even msot people who go to Church aren't Christian.

[Old_Geezer]

Given the rewards of the life I'm not sympathetic. in any case she could also change things by royal decree can't she ? Life sentence my foot, not even the cushiest open prisons come close. I have more sympathy for me. For far less wealth I have to work five days a week even if i hate it. i don't know how I cope.

[FredPuli43]

Isn't the Church of England still described as "the Conservative Party at prayer" ? No wonder that the openly atheist MPs are Labour; it's not a requirement of Labour candidates that they should profess a religion.

To appease my religious grandmother, my parents had me go to church with her. That was bad enough (I noticed that they had an excuse not to go). I was rumbled as not a regular when , at some point in the service, my grandmother curtseyed and I , watching her for clues, did the same. Ah well. It must be a living penance to be compelled to go by parents when you are bored or have doubts about the religion.

[idiosyncrasy]

I went to church until well into my 20's. Then I had questions they could not answer. So I didn't go again. I am not registered with the Church of England any more because I wrote to the Diocese of Lichfield and asked them to remove my name from their register.

[modeller]

How is someone registered with a church . Is that the same as being baptised ?

[jake-the-peg]

I think Charles is much less religious than his mother

Evidenced by the time he suggested he wanted to be 'defender of the faiths' - plural before getting slapped down

Bit tricky when you're the head of one of them!