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Why dont women go to the mosque to pray - or do they .
I have not noticed women coming out of mosques
I have not noticed women coming out of mosques
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Women fought (and died) in this country to get the vote and other benefits that men have had for hundreds of years.
Then we have allowed a load of people in this country who treat their women like second class citizens and live like it was 200 years ago.
All part of "benefits" of the great multicultural society.
Other "benefits" include honour killing, female genital mutilation, thousands of people in this country who cant or wont speak English, men with multiple wives (who can claim benefits for all of them), and much more.
Part of the reason I now hate living in this country when once I loved it.
Then we have allowed a load of people in this country who treat their women like second class citizens and live like it was 200 years ago.
All part of "benefits" of the great multicultural society.
Other "benefits" include honour killing, female genital mutilation, thousands of people in this country who cant or wont speak English, men with multiple wives (who can claim benefits for all of them), and much more.
Part of the reason I now hate living in this country when once I loved it.
Yes VHG, fully agree, especially with your first para.
If any other section of the population treated women in the way that Muslim women are treated there would be absolute hell to pay. Similarly if anybody else espoused views on gay people the way Islam views them they may very well find themselves down the nick to help Plod with his enquiries.
As you say, all part of the considerable benefits of living in a so-called multicultural society. Or not, depending on your point of view.
If any other section of the population treated women in the way that Muslim women are treated there would be absolute hell to pay. Similarly if anybody else espoused views on gay people the way Islam views them they may very well find themselves down the nick to help Plod with his enquiries.
As you say, all part of the considerable benefits of living in a so-called multicultural society. Or not, depending on your point of view.
whilst that is true, it's not in many clubs now, and besides that is sport, which has been the preserve of men until in fairly recent years.
this isn't about some sport, this is about the segregation of the sexes, in a mosque, still don't know why they need separating, is it to the men can't concentrate if the women are praying, that would seem illogical if so. Then nothing about their religion seem particularly logical. not most religions whilst we about it.,
this isn't about some sport, this is about the segregation of the sexes, in a mosque, still don't know why they need separating, is it to the men can't concentrate if the women are praying, that would seem illogical if so. Then nothing about their religion seem particularly logical. not most religions whilst we about it.,
actually i did, but you know how patronising some can be
women got the vote a lot earlier in some places as you can see, notice the last entry
UK: In 1918 women over 30 got the vote. In 1928 they got voting equality with men.
US: Women got the vote in 1869 in Wyoming Territory in the USA followed by Colorado(1893), Utah (1896), Idaho (1896), Washington (1910), California (1911), Arizona (1912), Kansas (1912), Oregon (1912), Illinois (1913), Nevada (1914) and Montana (1914).
In 1920 the Nineteenth Amendment gave most women the right to vote.
Rest of World:
1893 - New Zealand is the first country to give women the vote.
1902 - Australia , although aboriginal women were not eligible to vote until 1967, when along with aboriginal men, they were granted full citizenship.
1906 - Finland is the first country in Europe to give women the vote.
1917 - Russia
1918 - United Kingdom (partial), Germany, Canada, Austria.
1920 - The USA, but not Native American women.
1925 - Italy
1928 - United Kingdom (full), Ireland
1930 - South Africa , but only to white women. Indian and 'coloured' women won the vote in 1984 and black women in 1994.
1931 - Spain
1932 - Brazil
1944 - France
1945 - Italy
1946 - Kenya, Palestine,
1947 - China, Pakistan,
1948 - Israel, Iraq,
1950 - India
1952 - Greece
1953 - Mexico
1956 - Egypt, Tunisia, Mauritius
1957 - Malaysia
1962 - Algeria
1971 - Switzerland
1974 - Jordan
1976 - Portugal
2001 - Bahrain
women got the vote a lot earlier in some places as you can see, notice the last entry
UK: In 1918 women over 30 got the vote. In 1928 they got voting equality with men.
US: Women got the vote in 1869 in Wyoming Territory in the USA followed by Colorado(1893), Utah (1896), Idaho (1896), Washington (1910), California (1911), Arizona (1912), Kansas (1912), Oregon (1912), Illinois (1913), Nevada (1914) and Montana (1914).
In 1920 the Nineteenth Amendment gave most women the right to vote.
Rest of World:
1893 - New Zealand is the first country to give women the vote.
1902 - Australia , although aboriginal women were not eligible to vote until 1967, when along with aboriginal men, they were granted full citizenship.
1906 - Finland is the first country in Europe to give women the vote.
1917 - Russia
1918 - United Kingdom (partial), Germany, Canada, Austria.
1920 - The USA, but not Native American women.
1925 - Italy
1928 - United Kingdom (full), Ireland
1930 - South Africa , but only to white women. Indian and 'coloured' women won the vote in 1984 and black women in 1994.
1931 - Spain
1932 - Brazil
1944 - France
1945 - Italy
1946 - Kenya, Palestine,
1947 - China, Pakistan,
1948 - Israel, Iraq,
1950 - India
1952 - Greece
1953 - Mexico
1956 - Egypt, Tunisia, Mauritius
1957 - Malaysia
1962 - Algeria
1971 - Switzerland
1974 - Jordan
1976 - Portugal
2001 - Bahrain
that was a little bit of plagiarism, but you get the drift, segregation in mosques i guess is a small thing in the reality of life for women in backwards countries, those who suffer at the hands of their husbands and maybe his family, the terrible cases of FGM, and rape as a weapon of war, it's all there...
They do go to mosques, where there is a separate provision for them (often upstairs). In theory they can go to any mosque and stand behind the men but in practice it doesn't happen very often. Some purpose built mosques have very nice ladies' accommodation. If they do go, you'll probably find they come out of a separate door.
just so you don't think it's just in the backwards countries, i have read a fair deal about this, and seen a number of documentaries, women being interviewed, but it's still incredibly shocking..
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Em - As far as I'm aware all the rules in Islam about women are there to absolve men from not being able to control their passion. So if a man can't look at a woman without getting the "urge" then why not blame the woman as it says in the bible and no doubt the Koran.
Blame the women and treat them as a different species. Keep them separate and keep them covered and if that doesn't work then flog her or imprison her when she gets raped. It's all her fault anyway.
Blame the women and treat them as a different species. Keep them separate and keep them covered and if that doesn't work then flog her or imprison her when she gets raped. It's all her fault anyway.
It's also not just a muslim thing Orthadow Jews seperate the sexes
One thing about segregation of muslim prayers if you think about it is they all bow towards Mecca in rows.
The consequence of this is that you can be rather nose to tail - if you get my drift
That's seen as fairly undesirable from many people's perspective.
However given this it should be unacceptable for mosques not to have a seperate section for women too - in fact it should be a precondition of planning permission!
One thing about segregation of muslim prayers if you think about it is they all bow towards Mecca in rows.
The consequence of this is that you can be rather nose to tail - if you get my drift
That's seen as fairly undesirable from many people's perspective.
However given this it should be unacceptable for mosques not to have a seperate section for women too - in fact it should be a precondition of planning permission!
or marry the rapist, i saw the documentary this relates to, she is treated very poorly, he loves the child apparently, he was already married...
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