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nailit | 23:19 Sat 28th Jun 2014 | Religion & Spirituality
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I read on another thread that you used to live in a haunted house. Can you tell us a little more about what happened there? Im genuinely interested. One of my sisters seems to constantly have unexplained things happening to her and other members of my family have had 'spookey' experiences.
Anyone else lived in a haunted house or had experiences of the 'impossible'?
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I was staying at boyfriends house. Only time I ever did as quite strict parents but mother dying of stomach cancer and close to death. In his room in and he asleep. Heard noise like a swishing sound on stairs. Then saw form of a woman in doorway. Moments later she was gone.
Next day spoke to boyfriends brother and said thought I had seen something strange previous night.
He described a person to me and I said yes, that was who I saw. Apparently deceased mother of the woman close to death.
Odd but it happened.
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Spookey. I know its easy to dismiss things like this as delusion etc but had many members of my own family who've had similar experiences. The sceptics arguments just dont do it for me any more.
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Grasscarp, what were your feelings at the time you saw the 'ghost'?
Fear? Curiosity?
Oddly I felt annoyed that I had not shut bedroom door. I felt that she would not have been there if door was closed. I didn't want to see her.
This goes against all the things people say - you wanted to see etc
I didn't want to see anyone and was quite annoyed that I did!
I used to work in a bakery and one day I was on my own ,late afternoon and I nipped out to the bakehouse to wash a few trays .Standing at the sink I saw a man pass through the passageway to the back yard .He had his bakers gear on .White apron etc .I thought it was my boss going out into the yard .
Went back into the shop and the boss walked in the front door !
I said that I had just seen him out the back .
He said...no it wasn't me ...you've seen the ghost .
Apparently the previous owner of the bakery had committed suicide there ,hanged himself , and they often saw him flitting about .

I saw my Dad several weeks after he died standing in the corner of the room .He looked young and had his seafaring gear on and a kitbag .He waved to me ....and I waved back ..lol ...
I also think that my old dog Shaney flits about here at times .I often see a black shadow out of the corner of my eye which I can't explain .
Probably my imagination re my Dad and the dog ,the imagination can play tricks but I definitely saw the baker !

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Interesting. I had an uncle that encountered a ghost on his way to work early one morning. By the time he arrived at work they had give him a stiff drink and send him home, it had scarred him witless, a gibbering wreck by the time he got there. He was a hard headed materialist until that point. He rarely talked about it afterwards.
One scripture cancels the idea that there is something left over when we die...something that is ACTIVE...WHICH MOST " GHOSTS" are...
(Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6) For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they no longer have any share in what is done under the sun.

NO ACTION...

So what people experience CANNOT be the ACTIONS of dead people.

The only other explanation is DEMONS...

THEY exist and ARE able to be active.
I was waiting for someone to come up with the demons explanation. An imprint of a life lived can’t possibly exist, but supernatural demons certainly do. Work that one out.
Sorry, internet still playing up...
I would just describe it as unexplained, i suppose, Naomi. By saying it is "haunted" it implies that IS the explanation. No further thought necessary and i don't think that's the case.
Let's see now, E=MC^2 times the inverse function of . . .

Ahh, forget it! :o/
Demons exist?? This is one of the most bizarre threads i have seen for a long time.
Pixie, the 'unexplained'? What are we talking about here? UFOs perhaps? No, the 'unexplained' is far too vague.

'Demons' have been on the agenda around here forever. They're just coming from different sources now. ;o)
Name, now you lost me lol.
Or even... Naomi.
Actually, demonic possession would go along way towards explaining quite a bit of the behaviour at times 'witnessed' here.
Unexplained happenings- whatever you like. For some "haunting" or "ghosts" are the explanation and that's it, in spite of all evidence to the contrary. We do know something about human brains, illnesses, eyesight/hearing problems, chemical reactions, dt's point about electricity, physics.....etc. All of which could cover these happenings one way or another. To put it down to ghosts, something that has been researched and thought about for as long as humans have existed- with still not an iota of evidence, is quite strange.
I would be interested in people's reasons for rejecting everything that is known to believe an old myth. They must have reasons. Sometimes it seems as though we are going backwards instead of forwards.
Demons are just as likely, i suppose!
// I agree with dt and jomifl. There will be a rational explanation, which we may just not know yet //

There's absolutely no doubt about that. There will be an explanation, and it will be rational.
What I'd like to know is, "Can anyone conjure up a rational splanation for why I exist!?" :o/
I have no doubt either, ludwig- but many here do!
grasscarp, you're doing yourself an injustice saying that because the vision irritated you, it was therefore "not wanted". Your subconscious is far too complicated and sophisticated to just obey what your conscious mind thinks it wants. If humans were really that simple, this thread wouldn't even exist.
Ratter, I’m not sure at which point I lost you. Defining ‘the unexplained’; saying ‘Be careful what you wish for’ ; or responding to Pixie’s comment about demons?

The first could be interpreted as UFOs, telekinesis, water-divining, clairvoyance, doppelgangers, déjà vu, etc, etc., so not necessarily just ‘things that go bump in the night’. The ‘unexplained’ doesn’t suffice. Pixie, please take note.

The second, personally I wouldn’t wish for a repeat of my ‘ghostly’ experiences.

The third, several of the faithful of assorted flavours around here believe that demons are real. We’ve talked about ‘them’ often.

Ludwig, you agree with me too. I said that at 22:46 Sunday. ;o)

Mibs, haaaa! Best you don’t ask perhaps. ;o)

Pixie, you’re telling intelligent people that they didn’t experience what they say they experienced? How do you know they didn’t and what qualifies you to contradict them? They’ve been there – you haven’t. Do you really think you know more than they do? You say “despite all the evidence to the contrary….”, but there is no evidence to the contrary. Absence of evidence does not equate to evidence of absence.

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