Who Are Fully Convinced That The Bible Is The Word Of God?

[goodlife]

Many people are attracted to Jehovah’s Witnesses because of the high moral standards and the love that they see among the Witnesses. That is a fine start,

But it does not mean that such people have faith. Others may have a marriage mate or a parent who is strong in faith, and they may share in some of the activities engaged in by that one whom they love. Having such an influence in one’s home is truly a blessing, but this too is no substitute for personal love of God and personal faith.—Luke 10:27, 28.

[beso]

I am still waiting for your answer goodlife.

Do you stone your children to death at the edge of town when they are disobedient as directed by the Bible?

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21

Or do you just wait for God to send in the ravens?
The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it. -- Proverbs 30:17

[goodlife]

Beso@I really don't know why you are bothered about this? Just shows you Don't Know your Bible!
We are No Longer under the Mosaic Law. That Law only applied to the Isrealites to keep them seperate from the surrounding pagan nations.
Anyway, if we were still under that law - the world would be a better place.

[Slapshot]

Yoohoo Goodlife... answer my question please or are you being selective about what you tell folk???

[nailit]

//We are No Longer under the Mosaic Law. That Law only applied to the Isrealites to keep them seperate from the surrounding pagan nations.
Anyway, if we were still under that law - the world would be a better place.//

Anyone else see the flaw in this? (apart from the fact that he cant spell israelites)

[agchristie]

Indeed nailit I did! Further clarification needed (or maybe best not...)

[nailit]

must be a mystery agchriste not available to us non-jw's.

[dunnitall]

I'm not convinced of anything man-made religious, no such thing as god unless you can prove it to me, so my answer is in the negative...each to his own!

[jomifl]

Gl, / That Law only applied to the Isrealites to keep them seperate from the surrounding pagan nations.
Anyway, if we were still under that law - the world would be a better place. /
The palestinians would certainly think so..

[jomifl]

Beso, steady on old chap it must be a matter of degree, after all if a rebellious son refused to go to schoo then I can see that there would be no alternative to a traditional stoning, but if he just refused to eat his rusks (seethed in goat's milk) then stoning to death might be a step (hewn from stone)too far.

[goodlife]

Slapshot @ Jehovah God exercise of foreknowledge selective and discretionary, so that whatever he chooses to foresee and foreknow, he does, but what he does not choose to foresee or foreknow, he does not? And, instead of preceding their existence, does God’s determination of his creatures’ eternal destiny await his judgment of their course of life and of their proved attitude under test?

The answers to these questions must necessarily come from the Bible themselves and the information they provide concerning God’s actions and dealings with his creatures, including what has been revealed through his Son, Christ Jesus.—1Co 2:16. So simple for some, read the Bible.

[vulcan42]

I believe goodlife is correct. If he can make sense of what he has written at 09:14 then he could certainly understand parts of the bible that we lesser mortals cannot.

[beso]

gooflife //Anyway, if we were still under that [Mosaic] law - the world would be a better place. //

Interesting. So you think children should be stoned to death for disobedience.

Moreover you elect to disagree with your God's judgement about what is good for us.

And stop referring to the rubbish book as "your Bible". it isn't mine nad never will be.

[Slapshot]

You finally bothered and as atypical, of your faith you put up some obfuscatory response, well I have read the bible more than once, I don't claim to know chapter and verse but what I do know is it doesn't say scrifice you wife and kids for the sake of a blood transfusion. My family are abominations to your faith, heretics if you will.

Like every religion, it's all about someone somewhere wielding a power over other people generally to their detriment. The catholic faith used it for 1500 years to oppress the peasantry but were screwed when people began to read the true word of god...not what some power crazy money crazy Pope or cardinals wanted to say.

Your faith is like every other cult, you lure people in, you brainwash them, you infect their lives. I grew up next to a family of Jehovah's Witnesses so I know what their aims are... i had the attempts to lure le as a young teenager.... can't tell you how proud I was of my pal Kathy when she kicked the thing at 19 and blossomed into a fantastic beautiful young woman once she was out the clutches of her family and the religion.

[goodlife]

// well I have read the bible more than once, I don't claim to know chapter and verse but what I do know is it doesn't say scrifice you wife and kids for the sake of a blood transfusion. My family are abominations to your faith, heretics if you will. //

Slapshot True it doesn’t, say you have to sacrifice your family so I don’t know where you get that from! Besides there are alternatives to blood. I have had operations, so has my wife and we did not have blood transfusions, because there are other things you can have which do the same job and are much more reliable and safer!

I think you need to do more research because doctors and surgeons are now performing more and more operations without blood! And not just on JWs. At the end of the day, we have free will and you can choose what you like.

Beso@ If you don’t like what I say then don’t come on my threads. You talk a load of rubbish anyway. So in future I will not answer your comments.

[locusts]

HI the good life..I was reading your section this week and comments., I was quite impressed, even though some of your comments., was not in the way I was thinking But, that they did make sense ,as I class myself the true believer in the Bible, of gods word and not man , following the scriptures. Many people forget that the Bible is the book of the past and for the future ,and will help us to learn from the past and not make the same mistakes, but seems like man has moved away further and further from their creator because they think they know better, as I read to some of the comments these people seem to be so intelligent But they cannot see their finger in front of their face,,,. 1 When you read the counter Noah.2 and you can also see in account of lot in the land sodom,, and lot try to to warn them, and that they just laughed at him. And in the same way they ridicule you. It is the warning of life or death... it there choices

[cassa333]

(((Who Are Fully Convinced That The Bible Is The Word Of God?)))

Only those that believe.

Those that don't believe won't because a book is just a book.

I have many books, some fact some fiction. Some well writen some not.

[vulcan42]

I'm sorry locusts but you, like goodlife, are rambling and not making any sense. Why do you believe the bible is the true word of god? It's self contradictory so why would a god allow that to be part of his "true word"?

[mibn2cweus]

Who Are Fully Convinced That The Bible Is The Word Of God?

Those who have sacrificed the process of reason, (our only means of determining and establishing what is real, true and right), on the alter of a preferred delusion.

[Slapshot]

You're right Goodlife we have a choice.

Blood, perhaps you need do a bit more digging yourself or suggest to your church as a whole to change the message at the doors. Some of your "brothers & Sisters" recently branded my wife an abomination because she'd taken the blood of others.

If I was a Mod or this was my site you and those like you who come onto these boards to spout off about your religion would be banned, this isn't the place to advertise for new cult members

[beso]

goodlife //Beso@ If you don’t like what I say then don’t come on my threads. You talk a load of rubbish anyway. So in future I will not answer your comments.//

What a cop out. You won't answer my questions because you get caught out when you do.

You did that the world would be a better place if we all followed Mosaic law which includes stoning children to death for disobedience. And in doing so you disagreed with your God about what is best for the Gentile population.