Is God Responsible – Or Isn’T He?

[naomi24]

When people, especially the young, fall foul of unavoidable diseases and die, the religious often justify the loss by saying “It’s God’s will”, and yet when asked why they think a loving God would have willed that disease on the victim, they say “It’s not God’s fault”. How does that work?

[Khandro]

mikey; //where is God when all the *** is flying around ?//
Wise-up, the Gaza strip has nothing whatsoever to do with God.

[keyplus90]

Because you people do not understand or believe in the meanings and purpose of this life as people who believe in God do, nor you believe the meanings and importance of the life hereafter and that is the reason I said that you would not understand. As for the logic, I have much experience about your so called logic and know very well that it does not go beyond your nose.

But one thing is sure that just as existence (or Nonexistence) of God does not let you have a peaceful mind same situation is here. Most of your atheist friends said what they usually say. Why are you worried about something that according to you does not exist? And it is true. If I am sure that something does not exist then I would not waste my time (and this much time) on that. But this is something called peace of mind and it only comes with faith.

[Hypognosis]

Speaking of "willed that disease on the victim" I am always bugged about the way that God is given the het out of jail free card when it comes to creation of diseases and/or disease causing organisms.
The knee-jerk response is to blame them on the devil but that makes the mistake of crediting a second being (equally mythical afaic) with the deity-level powers of creation. Oops!

I've posted a link to the relevant Monty Python song before and won't trouble you with it again.

In short: it's all God's handiwork. Sorry about that but there were
only meant to be two humans to keep him company except, via some icky incestuous process which the bible neatly sidesteps, they ended up multiplying. On the eight day he created pestilence, to keep our numbers in check.
There's nice of him. :-/

[Khandro]

To claim that God is in someway responsible for the appalling events taking place in Gaza, is tantamount to blaming an architect who designed a theatre, for a poor performance therein.

[mikey4444]

But why is your God not protecting all those totally innocent little children in Gaza Khandro ? If he loves us so much, as we are constantly being told by Christians, where is he when we need him ?

Could it be that he doesn't exist in the first place perhaps ?

Wise up yourself !

And if you don't understand by now that the blood-stained hands of the God of Abraham is all over Gaza, as Naomi has said, than its unlikely that you will ever understand.

"Suffer little children to come unto me"....remember that one ? Well, that is coming true in spades now hasn't it ?

[naomi24]

Keyplus, keep fighting it. ;o)

Hypognosis, it's all God's handiwork - until it goes wrong.

Khandro, had the theatre not been designed and built, the performance would never have taken place.

[mikey4444]

Morning Naomi ! Its unlikely that we are going to influence any theists on here, although I, like you, enjoy the thrill of the chase !

[naomi24]

Morning Mikey, People come here of their own free will and they leave of their own free will. There is no prey and there is no chase.

[agchristie]

Maybe not Mikey but continuing to expose weak arguments is important,to keep a grip on reality.

Birdie went a long way to keeping feet firmly on the ground so as to prevent the head being in the clouds!! I doubt we will see many posts as good as those today....

[agchristie]

Morning Naomi - great minds think alike of course! 8.15!

[mikey4444]

I agree agchristie !

[naomi24]

Morning ag.

[mikey4444]

agchristie...small but important question...does your space bar work ?

I hope I am not wakening the Grammar Balrog from his slumber, but using spaces makes posts easier to read and scan. Small point and I trust you are not offended by my mentioning it !

[agchristie]

Yes Mikey,using my phone - appears fine on reading back but guessing a problem to readers?

Apologies,if so!

[mikey4444]

Ah...now I understand agchristie !...no apologies needed whatsoever !

Phones are really not suitable for sustained debate here on AB. I have fingers like pigs nipples and find even short texting a trial.

Switch over to a proper PC or laptop without further delay !

[Khandro]

naomi; //had the theatre not been designed and built, the performance would never have taken place.//
Exactly! I think you have shot yourself in the foot there :0)
Also; I have never claimed to be a 'good' Buddhist any more than you have claimed to be a 'good' person.

[agchristie]

Just practical Mikey at times.Its very slow mind from my device :-(