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Is Satan Real?
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What do you think, satan is not real,he is just symbolic.
Or satan exists,but he has little interest in mankind.
Or satan is a powerful spirit creature who exerts great influence on mankind.
Because each has its supporters.
Or satan exists,but he has little interest in mankind.
Or satan is a powerful spirit creature who exerts great influence on mankind.
Because each has its supporters.
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No. But if I were going to wish an entity into existence, I would easily prefer Satan over God.
In case you're wondering, goodlife, someone actually went to the trouble of adding up the number of people murdered by Yahweh/God in Bible stories, and comparing it to the number of people killed by Satan. The results might surprise you (although they probably won't surprise anyone else):
http://
God: 2,476,633
Satan: 10.
(this goes exclusively on exact numbers given in the bible - does not take into account estimates from passages where God is said to kill a load of people without specifying numbers.)
In case you're wondering, goodlife, someone actually went to the trouble of adding up the number of people murdered by Yahweh/God in Bible stories, and comparing it to the number of people killed by Satan. The results might surprise you (although they probably won't surprise anyone else):
http://
God: 2,476,633
Satan: 10.
(this goes exclusively on exact numbers given in the bible - does not take into account estimates from passages where God is said to kill a load of people without specifying numbers.)
dieseldick
During my first year of university, I experienced an extremely potent hallucination. I was alone in my bedroom, attempting to go to sleep and in a semi-waking state. Naturally, this had an extremely strong influence on my brain - but nothing stronger than what happens to most people when they are going to sleep. I have never partaken in recreational drugs of any kind, and I do not drink alcohol (and never have). The experience I'm describin, while potent, was nothing more than a waking nightmare.
The hallucination I experienced was of a man levitating in front of me. His eyes were perfect circles (not ovals) - about the size and shape of a one-pound coin. He wore a tweed jacket, and spoke to me with a voice that sounded like he was underwater. He asked me to move some furniture around (which I did), and then asked me to get on the floor. I then got down on my hands on knees, and began barking the word "sin" like a dog. I did not feel like I had any control over my own actions. Lower down the scale, I also regularly hallucinate people sitting on the end of my bed/standing nearby and speaking to me when I am in a semi-waking state. This is by no means uncommon.
Now, I could very easily call "going to sleep" a "trance state" (or some such rubbish) and claim that the people I can see are ghosts or spirits or demons. Indeed, you regularly hear of people (in fact I know several) who claim to be psychic or to have had supernatural experiences based on nothing more than very common hallucinations associated with sleep paralysis.
Now, this is nowhere near the same as near death experiences. Nothing like the same league. People who are close to death experience profound alterations to their brain chemistry - far, far stronger than what happens when people are going to sleep. Considering that people in the latter state are capable of generating such powerful false experiences, the kinds of experience people have when they are near death must be extremely potent. I am not surprised they find them life-changing.
This does not mean that what people who are near death perceive is real. It can be horrifying, beautiful, or profound, I'm sure. But this says absolutely nothing about how real the actual sensory experiences are. You cannot trust your senses to reliably give you information about the real world when you know your brain chemistry is experiencing extreme alteration.
That is why near death experiences are not valid evidence of Satan existing.
During my first year of university, I experienced an extremely potent hallucination. I was alone in my bedroom, attempting to go to sleep and in a semi-waking state. Naturally, this had an extremely strong influence on my brain - but nothing stronger than what happens to most people when they are going to sleep. I have never partaken in recreational drugs of any kind, and I do not drink alcohol (and never have). The experience I'm describin, while potent, was nothing more than a waking nightmare.
The hallucination I experienced was of a man levitating in front of me. His eyes were perfect circles (not ovals) - about the size and shape of a one-pound coin. He wore a tweed jacket, and spoke to me with a voice that sounded like he was underwater. He asked me to move some furniture around (which I did), and then asked me to get on the floor. I then got down on my hands on knees, and began barking the word "sin" like a dog. I did not feel like I had any control over my own actions. Lower down the scale, I also regularly hallucinate people sitting on the end of my bed/standing nearby and speaking to me when I am in a semi-waking state. This is by no means uncommon.
Now, I could very easily call "going to sleep" a "trance state" (or some such rubbish) and claim that the people I can see are ghosts or spirits or demons. Indeed, you regularly hear of people (in fact I know several) who claim to be psychic or to have had supernatural experiences based on nothing more than very common hallucinations associated with sleep paralysis.
Now, this is nowhere near the same as near death experiences. Nothing like the same league. People who are close to death experience profound alterations to their brain chemistry - far, far stronger than what happens when people are going to sleep. Considering that people in the latter state are capable of generating such powerful false experiences, the kinds of experience people have when they are near death must be extremely potent. I am not surprised they find them life-changing.
This does not mean that what people who are near death perceive is real. It can be horrifying, beautiful, or profound, I'm sure. But this says absolutely nothing about how real the actual sensory experiences are. You cannot trust your senses to reliably give you information about the real world when you know your brain chemistry is experiencing extreme alteration.
That is why near death experiences are not valid evidence of Satan existing.
"Well obvious you don't know the Bible."
Says the copy-and-paste merchant. Have you ever bothered to read it? Because, believe it or not, I have.
Here is a detailed rundown of all the massacres perpetuated by your beloved Yahweh in that most moral and pure collection of stories. Take a look through it and follow the references yourself, if you're feeling brave enough to confront your own beliefs.
http://
Says the copy-and-paste merchant. Have you ever bothered to read it? Because, believe it or not, I have.
Here is a detailed rundown of all the massacres perpetuated by your beloved Yahweh in that most moral and pure collection of stories. Take a look through it and follow the references yourself, if you're feeling brave enough to confront your own beliefs.
http://
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