Why Did Jesus Come To The Earth?

[goodlife]

Jesus was not an imaginary person. He really lived as a man on earth. “In ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the [actual existence] of Jesus,” notes the Encyclopædia Britannica. So just who was Jesus? Was he really sent by God? Why is he so well known?

[jomifl]

Goodlife, if you read your bible you would see that he was born here, apparently from a virgin mother. Any coming must have preceded his birth so possibly his mother wasn't all she is cracked up to be.

[Khandro]

Why Did Jesus Come To The Earth? - a good question, but also;
Where Do We Come From? What Are We? Where Are We Going?
Please engage brain before attempting an answer.

[Khandro]

jomifl; Jesus has not insulted you mother, so why do you insult his?

[naomi24]

benhilton, //The positive message is that forgiveness and love triumphs over revenge and hate ….//

…. the result of which for the believer is the promise of eternal life. Am I wrong? For many an atheist the same message is apposite, the only difference being that genuine altruism, genuine love, and genuine forgiveness don’t depend upon personal reward. A bit like Ginger Rogers who, although not reaping the accolades, did exactly the same as Fred Astaire, only backwards and in high heels. Who is gullible?

methyl, // the underlying high moral content [of the bible]//

I would venture to suggest that you have never read the bits of the bible the church doesn’t teach. If you had you wouldn't say that.

[Khandro]

naomi;//I would venture to suggest that you have never read the bits of the bible the church doesn’t teach. If you had you wouldn't say that.//

Would you not agree that the simple negation of the pre-scientific Biblical accounts of the ancient world does not somehow disprove and devalue the whole religious phenomenon?

[naomi24]

Khandro, //Would you not agree that the simple negation of the pre-scientific Biblical accounts of the ancient world does not somehow disprove and devalue the whole religious phenomenon?

I’m at a loss to understand how your question sprang from my answer to methyl concerning the alleged high moral content of the bible.

[jomifl]

Khandro, since my birth nobody has to my knowlede ever claimed that my mother was a virgin. I admire your strong defence of christianity which is admirable for a non-believer but there are other more minor religions such as scientology and mormonism that would benefit from your support too. :-)

[goodlife]

naomi you know very little, Pilate’s skeptical view of truth is not uncommon today.

Many believe that truth is relative—in other words, that what is true to one person may be untrue to another, so that both may be right.
This belief is so widespread that there is a word for it—“relativism.” this how you view the matter of truth.

So, is it possible that you have adopted this view, because you don't know how much of this philosophy affects your life?

[Khandro]

Autres temps, autres mœurs.
jomifl will translate if necessary. :0)

[naomi24]

Goodlife, why don’t you answer my question? Who recorded this trial?
//Many believe that truth is relative—in other words, that what is true to one person may be untrue to another, so that both may be right.
This belief is so widespread that there is a word for it—“relativism.” this how you view the matter of truth.//

You’re wrong. That is certainly not how I view the matter of truth. In the absence of verifiable evidence I’ve no objection to positively doubting what others claim to be truth. People like you, for example.

[naomi24]

Khandro, I don’t need Jom to translate. Par for the course from you.

[Khandro]

Ooooh! hoity-toity!

[grasscarp]

I was thinking today about the believers and non believers on here every day. For the believers they are looking forward to the next life. If there isnt one they will never know.
For the non believers they are looking forward to nothing. So if they find they are wrong and they are propelled into the next life, what then? Will they be left wondering why they bothered spending so much of their short time on earth rubbishing those who believed in the concept?

[jomifl]

Khandro, that might have worked better in latin....

[naomi24]

Grasscarp, //Will they be left wondering why they bothered spending so much of their short time on earth rubbishing those who believed in the concept?//

Those who believe in the concept aren’t being ‘rubbished’. The concept itself is being questioned. A big but important difference that you consistently fail to understand. If it transpires that an afterlife exists, that doesn’t negate the irrationality of the concept to the living, so the people who question it now won’t be asking, once they’re ‘propelled into the next life’, why they questioned it. They will know. Because there was no evidence for it.

[jomifl]

Grasscarp,it is not the believers who are rubbished it is the belief. I am sure that black magic, necromancy and devil worship would be equally rubbished, but sadly they aren't that common so it is christianity that falls victim to the ridicule of the err...untouched.

[jomifl]

snap

[naomi24]

:o)

[naomi24]

By the way, Goodlife doesn't believe he's going to be propelled anywhere. He's going to rise from the dead so to speak - eventually - and continue life on earth.