87 Die In Crane Accident At The Grand Mosque, Mecca, Saudi Arabia.

[Gromit]

What was Allah thinking to allow such an occurance?

[Gromit]

If one cannot post about the religious aspects of an avent in this section, then I don't know where one can?

If I was seeking weeping and wailing, and gnashing of teeth answers, I would have posed the question differently and in Chatterbank.

[EDDIE51]

Islam teaches that Allah has a book, this book has a page for every person on Earth. On your page is written your life story, everything that happens to you , you can not alter it your life is predestined by Allah.

[EDDIE51]

Here is a link to predestination in Islam
http://www.irfi.org/articles3/articles_4801_4900/predestination%20in%20islam%20-wikipediahtml.htm
It specifically states that everything that happens on Earth was predicted by Allah and is his will.
So to a Muslim there was no way of preventing this it was bound to happen.
It has some interesting consequences, in Saudi Arabia ( where I lived for 3 years) it is a crime to get insurance. You would be trying to profit from the will of Allah !
(Insurance does exist but there is another name for it)

[joggerjayne]

I think it was a fair question, Gromit.

This is a terrible incident, but a tiny blip in the overall scheme. Tens of thousands of people die every day. People dying is not inherently tragic. But, when a tiny little group of them die in an accident at a place whose sole function is to praise a divine controller, it is a reasonable question to ask people who believe our destiny is in the hands of such a divine controller ...

... why would a divine controller do such a thing?

So there is a much bigger issue here than the death toll which, in the overall scheme, is not significant. A quick Google suggests that 150,000 people die every day, of whom only 100,00 are dying from old age.

[joggerjayne]

One could just as easily ask ...

Why, on the anniversary of 9/11, would Allah crash a giant, metal, mechanical object into a building?

Is he trying to send us a message?

[EDDIE51]

Read my link, Allah already knew this was going to happen!

[Islander]

It was a man made accident , Allah saved the survivors.

[Togo]

//More or less to the day of the Anniversary 9/11! //
The crane was being operated by the Bin Laden family firm overseeing the mosque extension. Who says Allah was responsible.

[joggerjayne]

I did, Eddie.

Followers of Allah accept that "He" would look at a new born baby and decide ... I'm going to crush you to death when you're nineteen?

[EDDIE51]

Read the link , Allah does not look at each person's future as they are born, he already knows what is going to happen to them. It was written in his book at the beginning of time.

[jomifl]

It seems that mohammed was a few leaves short of a tree otherwise this would have been predicted in the koran.

[beso]

You can read anything you like into it.

The faithful will say Allah was angry because of the behaviour of so many infidels and wants us to take action against them now. It is a sign of the great calamity when He will save Muslims and kill or convert everyone else.

[mibn2cweus]

Did anyone shout, "Allahu Akbar!" before the crane fell . . . or after?

[EDDIE51]

jomfil it is predicted but not in Quran in this
http://www.questionsonislam.com/article/what-preserved-tablet-lahw-i-mahfoos
Muslims believe everything that has or will happen is predicted in 'The Preserved Tablet' but only Allah can read it ! (luckily for bookmakers!)

[jomifl]

Thanks Eddie, that explains everything....or should do, so this tablet would be quite big then?

[EDDIE51]

It is only 'written' in the memory of Allah apparently.
Must take a good few Giga Bytes though!

[Peter Pedant]

erm tera-bytes surely ed ?

[Peter Pedant]

and yet no one has asked what the Christian view of God's knowledge of the future is

He's omniscient, yeah ? so knowledge of the future comes with the job description - Thomas Aquinas ( 13 cent ) said it was as tho he was standing on a hill ( thnk Gastonbry tor ) and surveying a landscape ( of events ) and clearly parts of the landscape are gonna be the future

Interesting pre view of time being a length dimension is space

just saying that