Roman Catholicism

[Theland]

Would any practicing Roman Catholics on here, help me to understand how they are able to accommodate their religion in the face of diametrically opposed scripture?

[waterboatman]

Religion and politics. The two biggest causes of arguments and wars there has ever been.

[naomi24]

:o)

[naomi24]

^That was to Murraymints, but good morning WBM. Nice to see you. :o)

[murraymints]

indeed Boaty..everyone should just learn to accept each other's beliefs..and get on with it..each to their own..although I am RC I have equal respect for other faiths

[naomi24]

//...everyone should just learn to accept each other's beliefs..and get on with it..each to their own..//

Impossible when 'their own' affects other people.

[murraymints]

I agree when" deeds "as it were..affect others..it is usually instigated by radicals with little regard for their own doctrines..but that is human nature I think..struggle for supremacy and all that....

I'd like to teach the world to sing !!!

[naomi24]

//it is usually instigated by radicals with little regard for their own doctrines//

Not so. It's usually instigated by the faithful with every regard for their own doctrines.

[murraymints]

I don't know where the Muslim doctrine says it is good to go forth and murder and terrorise? but then I am no expert and only know what I have been told by good Muslim friends who are equally dismayed by such actions

[alavahalf]

I was dragged up a RC and was beaten daily from a young age by the good sisters of St Patrick's. When you look back you realise it was all brainwashing, otherwise I wouldn't have all this information in my head about the parables, the miracles and all the rest of it.

Does anyone know that when Jesus handed out 'The five loaves and the two fishes' .. mankind had their first taste of the fish finger butty .. a mushy pea topping and tomato ketchup were never mentioned ... a bad mistake !

[naomi24]

I was talking about Roman Catholicism - but we can talk about Islam if you like.

[naomi24]

Sorry, cross posted. ^That was to murraymints.

[murraymints]

was not aware that RC faith had that much affect on others ?

[murraymints]

effect ^^

[naomi24]

Roman Catholicism, at the very least, keeps vast numbers of people in poverty. Edicts handed down from men in Rome rule lives.

[murraymints]

I agree with that Naomi...was upset by the riches in the Vatican..indeed ..a huge amount of hypocrisy exists..sadly...

[naomi24]

'Sadly' is right.

[Hypognosis]

I distinctly recall one school assembly bible reading because of the contradiction between its central advice and what we, as a group, gathered together in a place were doing: it said adherents to Christianity should sequester themselves in a private place, in order to worship.

I took from that the idea that church gatherings were a way to put yourself on display. Not merely to worship but to *be seen to worship* and to be faithful.

It would seem incongruous for a nation of just a single faith to have to bother with making a show of following the 'correct' faith but, if early Christians ever followed Jesus' advice to worship in the privacy of the home, I guess they soon had to abandon that because multiculturalism (Roman era) meant competition from other religions and conducting rituals in a group combats feelings of isolation and vulnerability doing it at home, feeling surrounded by 'the others'.

I am wondering if that is at the heart of the papal abhorrence with "personal Jesuses"?

(In other threads it has been observed that the church set itself up as the middleman, between you and God. Their fees have certainly bought them a lot of shiny things, over the years, not to mention the rest of their portfolio).

[Hypognosis]

Nine posts appeared in the time it took me to draft that post. I was not responding to MM's comment on the Vatican wealth but it's a fun coincidence.

I wanted to add an eye-of-a-needle jpg link but I've lost entire drafts trying late additions like that before.

[jomifl]

Hypo, I suspect that the reason that the CC doen't like personal jesuses is that the pope would not be their sole conduit to the 'almighty'. People might have their own ideas and form their own cults of christianity as so often happens. Roman catholicism is after all just a cult of christianity, along with Greek othodox, coptics etc.

[Theland]

The New Testament is simple and pure. Following it is not conducive to a grab for power, controlling authority and wealth grabbing. No wonder popes reject it.