Atheism: Last Attempt

[retrocop]

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[jomifl]

Khandro, given that christianity is a religion that depends upon the existence of 'god' and given also that there is not a jot of evidence that anything remotely resembling a god has ever existed other than as a delusion in the heads of individuals then there is no reason to give christianity any more credence than any of the thousands of other religions that exist. If anyone should be given a prize for laziness in thinking then christians should be amongst the prime recipients. The fact that there are a lot of christians does not make them any more right than anybody else as I would hope you well know.

[naomi24]

OG, //the basic flaw must surely be the assumption that a deity would have any need to reveal all that is true to humans. //

I think the assumption is that a deity ought to be consistent in what it reveals.

[Khandro]

naomi; //I think the assumption is that a deity ought to be consistent in what it reveals.//
A typically arrogant atheist comment.

[vulcan42]

\\ A typically arrogant atheist comment.//

A typically arrogant theist comment.

[naomi24]

Why is that arrogant? I see no sense in one deity conveying conflicting messages - unless, of course, it's purpose is to create conflict among human beings.

[naomi24]

^That was to Khandro.

[naomi24]

unless, of course,*its*

Before the grammar police arrive! ;o)

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - your tenacity and persistence, which is a hall-mark of the Chritsian faith given the seriously uphill struggle it lives with on a daily basis - trying to convince others to believe in something that is not there - is admirable, but you have to see that this is an argument you are not going to win.

You are trying earnestly to defend your belief in God to a bunch of people who not only singularly fail to be impressed by the weakness or your position, but actually really don't care anyway.

That's why we atheists are fundamentally a happy band - we are not saddled with a faith that comes from a myth, and puts intolerable burdens of expectation on its followers to measure up to a 'loving God' who rewards them with misery and death.

[Khandro]

valcan; ##\\ A typically arrogant atheist comment.//

A typically arrogant theist comment. ##

No, it ain't. No follower of any religion would believe God "ought" to do anything, only an atheist could say such a thing.

andy, your last post clearly demonstrates, (despite your enlightenment) just how singularly bereft of knowledge, let alone understanding you are.
Though I'm pleased to learn you are "happy", though I hope it isn't a fool's paradise.

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - ' ... bereft of knowlege'?

How astoundingly patronising you Christians can be!!!

If I am 'bereft', then by definition, I am living in blissful ignorance, because I don't know what I don't know.

Accent on the 'blissful' - it saves me from the tedious need to constantly look down on people simply because they don't share my view of the world.

That must be really hard work, given the minority of people who share your outlook.

[Khandro]

^^ //we atheists are fundamentally a happy band//
and doesn't it show!

[vulcan42]

\\ No, it ain't. No follower of any religion would believe God "ought" to do anything, only an atheist could say such a thing. //
As usual, a sweeping statement that cannot be proved.

[naomi24]

Khandro, //No follower of any religion would believe God "ought" to do anything//

Why not?

[Khandro]

naomi; Why not help out vulcan in demonstrating how I have made a "sweeping statement that cannot be proved" and give us an example of who, and of which religion, someone has said God ought to do something.
( “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" is unacceptable - too contentious!) :0)

[jomifl]

/No, it ain't. No follower of any religion would believe God "ought" to do anything, only an atheist could say such a thing. /

Well that's a bit of a sweeping statement. A couple of problems with it though.
1. You don't know what other believer might or might not believe and
2. It is highly unlikely that an atheist would speculate on what god might or might not do since by definition an atheist would not consider the existence of god very likely.
Glad to be of help :-)

[Khandro]

jomifl; // It is highly unlikely that an atheist would speculate on what god might or might not do//
See n's post 9:50. It wer 'er that started it guv.

[naomi24]

Khandro, //It wer 'er that started it guv.//

I said assumption - not speculation. No speculation involved.

//naomi; Why not help out vulcan in demonstrating how I have made a "sweeping statement that cannot be proved" and give us an example of who, and of which religion, someone has said God ought to do something.//

You answer him – and whilst you’re at it an answer to my question would be welcome.