Is Islam Fairly Represented In The Media

[nailit]

I despise Islam like I despise all organized religion, but that doesn't mean that I have to believe everything that the media portrays about a particular subject. (an example being that prisons are holiday camps...far from it)
Ive worked with muslims and while I find their beliefs ridiculous (just like I find the beliefs of Christians ridiculous) I couldn't fault them as people, in fact Ive found born again evangelicals much less easier to get on with.
Isnt it a similar thing to portraying all Catholic priests as kiddie fiddlers when clearly they arnt?

[nailit]

maybe Baldric, but then again ive never met a catholic priest who admitted to abusing kiddies either.

[Baldric]

Sneaky little Devils aren't they?

[nailit]

could be
;-)
Doubt that all catholic priests are kiddie fiddlers tho as I doubt that not all muslims are.

[atalanta]

If you represent Islam as a religion of conquest, which encourages its adherents to defeat and/or convert ( and occasionally enslave ) followers of other religions and none, that's correct. That's because that is exactly what the Koran says. Read the Koran, and see for yourselves.

[Hazi-Hammenuhoth]

Hello Mikey. I make no assumption (and certainly never suggested) that the Islamic idiots on the streets of London were representative of the muslims in south wales or anywhere else. You seem pretty quick to jump to conclusions. One thing I do know is that since the muslim faith has been spreading in this country, we have seen a devastating increase in violent Islamic extremism resulting in suicide bombers killing our children, policemen knived to death, a soldier beheaded on a London street in broad daylight and people being mown down in cold blood by Islamist extremists. This doesnt happen in south wales, Mikey, I am aware of that.

[vetuste_ennemi]

On the whole Islam is represented very "unfairly" by the media. (Fair as in honest, I mean.) Though "incuriously" might be a better word.

I've yet to see any of the mainstream media attempting to provide a serious analysis of the religion which has such an interesting effect on non-Welsh lives.

The starting point of an honest analysis would be to point out that the word religion is itself misleading: Islam is essentially a political ideology - and a totalitarian (in the literal sense and with all the bad connotations of that word) one at that. Further it as an expansionist ideology in which the greatest act of piety is fighting and dying in the cause of Allah. Some 20th century comparisons exist. (None of this ought to be contentious to anyone who is not totally ignorant.)

So likening Christian extremists to Muslim ones, as some of you have, is grotesque. Jesus said "Love your enemies and bless those who persecute you". Mohammed said "Kill [the unbelievers] wherever you find them". It's somewhat easier to get justification for mass murder from the latter injunction than it is from the former. And that's why Christian terrorism is a cottage industry while Islamic terrorism is a global brand.

[naomi24]

^Yep.

[mibn2cweus]

//"Kill [the unbelievers] wherever you find them"//

With an injunction like that, the only good Muslims are 'bad' Muslims . . . and the 'good' ones are even worse.

[keyplus90]

//// Mohammed said "Kill [the unbelievers] wherever you find them"////
So no muslim acting upon it has found you yet? Or is it that they know the meanings and most importantly "cotext" and you do not. Or perhaps you know but purposly are trying to twist the words.

[naomi24]

Keyplus, no one is twisting the words - that's what the book says - but you know and I know that these days it’s rather more prudent for Islam to be more selective in its methods than it was in Mohammed’s day. You told me yourself that Muslims don’t come here for a better life, but to show us infidels ‘the way’. Softly, softly, catchee monkey, eh Keyplus? ;o)

[vetuste_ennemi]

I hoped some of AB's many Islamophiles would challenge my post, Naomi, rather than Swat Valley's Hafiz of the year 1990.

They have a large body of experts (PP, DTC, etc) to correct my (and your) misrepresentations of the religion of peace.

[naomi24]

:o)

[fender62]

here are the instructions from the koran:-

Quran at-Tawbah (9:29)Kill the Christians and the Jews.
Quran al-Anfal (8:39) Kill all non-Muslims till only Allah is worshipped.
Quran An-Nisa (4:89) Those who leave Islam, kill them wherever you find them.
ON AND ON IT GOES
Quran at-Tawbah (9:123) O, Muslims, fight those adjacent to you of thedisbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is withthe righteous.

Read Quran at-Tawbah (9:29) Kill the Christians and theJews.

Quran al-Anfal (8:39) Kill all non-Muslims till only Allahis worshipped.

Quran An-Nisa (4:89) Those who leave Islam, kill themwherever you find them.

ON AND ON IT GOES

Quran at-Tawbah (9:123) O, Muslims, fight those adjacent toyou of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allahis with the righteous.

5:33-?Thepunishment ofthose who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strivewith might andmain for mischief through the land is:execution (by beheading),orcrucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exilefrom the land: that is their disgrace inthis world, and a heavy punishment istheirs in the Hereafter;?

8:12- ?Iwill instill terror into the hearts of theunbelievers: smite ye above theirnecks and smite all their finger-tips off.?

47:4- ?Therefore, when ye meet theUnbelievers(in fight), strike off theirheads; atlength; then when you have madewide Slaughter among them,carefully tie up the remaining captives?: thereafter (is thetime for)either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.?

9:123: ?Oh ye who believe! Murderthose of the disbelievers and letthem find harshness in you.?

2:191- ?Kill them wherever you findthem,and drive them out from wherever they drove you out.?

5: 45-- ?We ordained therein for them:?Life for life, eyeforeye, nose for nose, ear for ear. Toth for tooth, and wounds equal forequal.?

2:193- ?Fightthem on until there is no more tumult andreligion becomes that of Allah?

9:29- "Fightthose whodo not believe in God and the last day... and fight People of theBook,(Christian and Jews) who do not accept the religion of truth(Islam) untilthey pay tribute (Zizziya tax) by hand, being inferior.?

8:17?Itis not ye who Slew them;it is God; when thou threwest a handful of dust, it wasnot Thy act, but God?s?..? (Allah is a real mercifulindeed!)



Muslims”, They have notprogressed into the modern world.
Koran 2:191 "slay the unbelievers wherever youfind them"
Koran 3:21 "Muslims must not take the infidelsas friends"
Koran 5:33 "Maim and crucify the infidels ifthey criticize Islam"
Koran 8:12 "Terrorize and behead those whobelieve in scriptures other than the Koran"
Koran 8:60 " Muslims must muster all weapons toterrorize the infidels"
Koran 8:65 "The unbelievers are stupid, urgeall Muslims to fight them"
Koran 9:5 "When the opportunity arises, killthe infidels wherever you find them"
Koran 9:123 "Make war on the infidels living inyour neighborhood"
Koran 22:19 "Punish the unbelievers withgarments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water, melt their skin andbellies"
Koran 47:4 "Do not hanker for peace with theinfidels, behead them when you catch them"

[fender62]

keyplus90, so this must (all) be out of context

[Theland]

Open your eyes and stop making excuses for this vermin.

[keyplus90]

Fender, I really feel sorry for you. Trust me I do. Because you have copied and pasted so many verses from Quran. Only if you had made an effort to read one before and one after of most of those verses then you would have gained some knowledge. But don't worry and carry on.

[vulcan42]

" Koran 8:60 " Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels"
keyplus 90, this link picked at random from fenders list. You're the expert, what is the line preceding that changes the meaning?

[fender62]

the koran suffers from abrogation

[fender62]

like all religious books, the adherents are afraid to contradict or question whats written with the wrath of god upon them if they do.
one should always question, i mean if a so called god gave us the where with all, so it must be, that we question, other wise..the earth would still be considered flat, stars are angels or to some missiles from god aimed at demons...hahha demons love that one, people and mud, perhaps aquatic once, man and dinosaurs aka the flintstones..i have to laugh at at he charade lie the tooth fairy.

[fender62]

typo's