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Are You Scared Of Dying?
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My mum who has terminal cancer, had mapped her funeral arrangements out long ago and it required a religious ceremony. Prayers, Hymns etc. But after been allowed to attend the cremation of my brother in law...as one of the 10 people allowed at the start of lockdown...she has since changed her mind. My BIL had a humanist funeral and my mother found it beautiful, simple and to the point. She has since changed her request from a religious ceremony to a humanist one.
No religious claptrap spouted by a priest/vicar etc about living again in some etheral realm.
Just a simple accaptance that all things must die.
She seems more at peace with that, than this idea that we will live again after death.
Its unavoidable that we all must die, faith or no faith!
Ironically, as a young christian, I was terrified of dying.
As an atheist, Im not.
It seems to me that its the terminal religious that are most afraid.
To me death is nothing more than a return to the state of being before conception...nothingness!
Still try to make the most out of existance, but nothingness is not to be afraid of.
Like been in Non-REM sleep. Nothingness.
No religious claptrap spouted by a priest/vicar etc about living again in some etheral realm.
Just a simple accaptance that all things must die.
She seems more at peace with that, than this idea that we will live again after death.
Its unavoidable that we all must die, faith or no faith!
Ironically, as a young christian, I was terrified of dying.
As an atheist, Im not.
It seems to me that its the terminal religious that are most afraid.
To me death is nothing more than a return to the state of being before conception...nothingness!
Still try to make the most out of existance, but nothingness is not to be afraid of.
Like been in Non-REM sleep. Nothingness.
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Theland, //inwnat way do you feel threatened?//
That says it all. You are all about you with no thought for anyone else. I don’t feel threatened - not one iota - but your bile has the potential to damage minds more vulnerable than mine - and that is dangerous. Still, what would you care about that? As long as you can spout your sanctimonious claptrap and pat yourself on the back for your piety and your sacrifice - oh how you suffer at the hands of those nasty people who tell you straight! - you’re happy - despite your disturbed sleep. If you’re proud of what you do, Theland, you shouldn’t be.
That says it all. You are all about you with no thought for anyone else. I don’t feel threatened - not one iota - but your bile has the potential to damage minds more vulnerable than mine - and that is dangerous. Still, what would you care about that? As long as you can spout your sanctimonious claptrap and pat yourself on the back for your piety and your sacrifice - oh how you suffer at the hands of those nasty people who tell you straight! - you’re happy - despite your disturbed sleep. If you’re proud of what you do, Theland, you shouldn’t be.
Am sorry you lost your mum nailit.
".....The subject of NDE's and death...." I experienced NDE at my ceasarian. I floated to the ceiling & watched the nurses trying to bring me round. I saw the black tunnel & was being ushered towards the light by my uncle. I told him I cant leave as I have a baby to care for. With that I dropped back into my bed. When I gathered strength (minutes) I stood up & a huge ? maybe afterbirth dropped out of me. Nurse scooped it up & it filled the metal bowl.
Weeks later, meeting the other mums who all told me of the staff panic around my bed coz I had died.
Believe in NDE or not, you now know my experience.
".....The subject of NDE's and death...." I experienced NDE at my ceasarian. I floated to the ceiling & watched the nurses trying to bring me round. I saw the black tunnel & was being ushered towards the light by my uncle. I told him I cant leave as I have a baby to care for. With that I dropped back into my bed. When I gathered strength (minutes) I stood up & a huge ? maybe afterbirth dropped out of me. Nurse scooped it up & it filled the metal bowl.
Weeks later, meeting the other mums who all told me of the staff panic around my bed coz I had died.
Believe in NDE or not, you now know my experience.
// You don't mind as long as you're not there, eh Tomus? I know the feeling. :o) //
To put it less flippantly, I've come to terms with the fact that death is inevitable and have no fear of that whatsoever, but if I was on a boat that was sinking, I'd definitely be putting on a life jacket if one was available.
To put it less flippantly, I've come to terms with the fact that death is inevitable and have no fear of that whatsoever, but if I was on a boat that was sinking, I'd definitely be putting on a life jacket if one was available.
Tambo, I had an epidural (too late) with my first and my blood pressure dropped dangerously low. All I could see was a black tunnel and bright stars and lights, until, of course, they managed to bring it back to normal.
It was obviously a physical reason and was able to be reversed. You are either dead or you aren't. You can't be a bit dead. Or even nearly.
It was obviously a physical reason and was able to be reversed. You are either dead or you aren't. You can't be a bit dead. Or even nearly.
Theland, let's get one thing straight, I don't feel threatened by you or any of the people like you. You wrote this and that's what concerns me.
\\If there is at least one who has some nervousness about dying, why should I not offer them comfort?//
Have you ever thought that your so called words of comfort could actually terrify somebody who is already afraid of dying? No, I don't suppose you have, the arrogance is never ending. You're telling them what's going to happen and yet there is not one iota of proof of what you're saying. Earlier in this thread you said something about accepting Jesus into our lives and then offered the alternative of going to hell if we didn't.
I've known a lot of people like you and they do exactly the same, if I don't accept what they say then I will go to hell. I used to work with somebody, just like you, always telling people they were going to hell. Like you he had double standards, when my wife was dying he told me Prayer was the only answer and yet two years later when his Mother in law was dying, he took her to every doctor,specialist, quack, etc he could think of. He even considered Lourdes until he discovered the cost but like a lot of religious people the last part to be converted was his hip pocket and he refused to spend the money. Like you, he hated Roman Catholicism, until he thought it could help him.
Like you, he also ignores parts of the bible that doesn't suit him, in this case it was the eighth commandment and he stole from his employer. Out of work and now unemployable he persuaded his wife to open a creche which she did. Unfortunately it was just a front for his nefarious actions, last December he started a lengthy prison sentence for child sexual abuse. It's people like him who helped to turn me from religion, your attitude on this site won't have me rushing back either but I suppose you couldn't care less about that. Oh, by the way, it was reported that this chap told the judge he'll go to hell when sentenced but I can't verify that, not that will bother you very much, you don't believe in verification of facts.
\\If there is at least one who has some nervousness about dying, why should I not offer them comfort?//
Have you ever thought that your so called words of comfort could actually terrify somebody who is already afraid of dying? No, I don't suppose you have, the arrogance is never ending. You're telling them what's going to happen and yet there is not one iota of proof of what you're saying. Earlier in this thread you said something about accepting Jesus into our lives and then offered the alternative of going to hell if we didn't.
I've known a lot of people like you and they do exactly the same, if I don't accept what they say then I will go to hell. I used to work with somebody, just like you, always telling people they were going to hell. Like you he had double standards, when my wife was dying he told me Prayer was the only answer and yet two years later when his Mother in law was dying, he took her to every doctor,specialist, quack, etc he could think of. He even considered Lourdes until he discovered the cost but like a lot of religious people the last part to be converted was his hip pocket and he refused to spend the money. Like you, he hated Roman Catholicism, until he thought it could help him.
Like you, he also ignores parts of the bible that doesn't suit him, in this case it was the eighth commandment and he stole from his employer. Out of work and now unemployable he persuaded his wife to open a creche which she did. Unfortunately it was just a front for his nefarious actions, last December he started a lengthy prison sentence for child sexual abuse. It's people like him who helped to turn me from religion, your attitude on this site won't have me rushing back either but I suppose you couldn't care less about that. Oh, by the way, it was reported that this chap told the judge he'll go to hell when sentenced but I can't verify that, not that will bother you very much, you don't believe in verification of facts.
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