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Do You Prefer Fact Or Fiction?

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nailit | 18:12 Thu 13th May 2021 | Religion & Spirituality
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After 55 years on this earth I prefer fact.
As much as it pains me, as much as it upsets me, I prefer facts over faith.
A few weeks ago I was nearly suicidal. Still prefer facts to 'faith'. If I had ended my life then, I would have been dead, end off, no atheist in foxhole here.
Just dont understand this religious preoccupation with living forever....
I honesty just dont get it?
What the hell are you going to to FOREVER?
It would be like watching a game of football that went on forever...there wouldnt be a point,
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How many friends have you lost to suicide tambo?
Ive lost at least 4.
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One hung himself, two (intentionaly) drank themselves to death and one took an overdose.
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Their existance and experience of life was so bad that they just checked out in the best way that they knew.
We dont all have the same experience of life...
Whether you want to live forever or not is hardly the point. Everyone will because we are spiritual beings eg soul and spirit not made of atoms so nothing that can delay.
Choose wisely where you spent eternity!
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Oooh! More spookiness and veiled threats...
quaking...
Still feeling raw about my mums passing.
Is she burnning right now?
How can I worship a god thats burning my parents?
Why would I even want to?
Nailit. No one is asking you to worship anybody.
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fiveleaves, answer me this...
why would I want to worship your god?
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//Nailit. No one is asking you to worship anybody.//
Anne, thank you for clarifying.
Your depth of knowledge knows no bounds.
your Biblical knowledge is unsurpassed !
Better than yours nailit. I don’t have any questions now re religion .
Nailit, Because He is your creator and you couldn't breathe a single breath without Him. Because He loves you with an everlasting love and gave His Son to die for you. Enough reason?
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//Enough reason?//
You havnt presented any reasons though.
You've presented opinion...

//you couldn't breathe a single breath without Him//
I couldnt breathe a single breath without trees actually.

//Because He loves you with an everlasting love//
Again, opinion!
Nothing to substantiate your claim.


//and gave His Son to die for you//
Evidence?
NONE...

I used to be a pentecostal too!
As tough as life can be, so glad that I found my way out of that belief system and accept life for what it is...
Flawed, harsh, unforgiving at time, nasty & red in tooth and claw.

But also the only life that I have.
Up to me to make the most of it.

If theres life after death, then I have to wonder why the hell we have to die in the first place???
Does a pet live after its died?
A virus?
An amoeba?
A farm animal?
An animal that we have ate?
A cabbage?

This entire concept is just ridiculous.







I think you approach the whole question of God from the wrong angle.
You criticise and decide, as if you had a choice. You don't.
If God exists you will stand before Him one day, regardless of how much kicking a screaming you do.
Don't say, ''I don't know,'' when it comes to the Creator of the universe.
Of course there was a Creator, it didn't create itself. Neither did lifeless chemicals begin to breathe on their own.
Get used to the idea of a Supreme Being, a Creator, a Life Giver and Sustainer.
Criticise Him all you like, He is not going away.
Theland, that is one of the most arrogant pieces of tripe you’ve ever posted. Believe what you like but you’ve no business telling anyone that unless they accept your totally irrational perspective they’re under threat. This makes me angry. People like you are dangerous.
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//I think you approach the whole question of God from the wrong angle//
Try substituting 'God' (or at least YOUR version of God) for Krishna...or any one of a thousand gods dreamed up by mankind...and you just might have an idea of why I think the God of the Bible is just another story (threat)

//If God exists you will stand before Him one day, regardless of how much kicking a screaming you do//
I'll kick and scream against irrationality until my dying day. Doesnt make your belief right.
Krishna also fortold such stories...

//Don't say, ''I don't know,'' when it comes to the Creator of the universe./
Here comes those loving, christian threats again.
Don't say, ''I don't know,'' when it comes to the Creator of the universe. Havnt you heard about Krishna?
He revealed all in the Bhagavad Gita...


//Get used to the idea of a Supreme Being, a Creator, a Life Giver and Sustainer//
Praise Krishna.
Supreme being, Creator, Life giver and sustainer.
And praise a thousand other gods who all do the same.

(Including, BTW, becoming men, dying and resurrecting for our atonement...its not a novel idea)

Thanks for the veiled threat by the way. Must be downstairs for me...
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Its hot down here...
Still, got to speak to my atheist parents at least.
Dont quiet know how happy I would have been in heaven without my loved ones.
All my relatives and friends were non believers (except my Buddhist mate but apparently hes's here in hell as well.)
Such is death...
//But also the only life that I have.
Up to me to make the most of it.//

Make that the mantra of your life and go forward, seems to me to be the best way for you.

No threats, no damnation, just live and be who you are.
Theland - 22:58 "If God exists you will stand before Him one day, regardless of how much kicking a screaming you do."
You paint such a lovely picture of God that you might have made a convert.
You often refer to the first cause as proving the existence of God. Even if you were right about that, where does all the rest of God's character come from? Does a first cause have to be male, loving, anti-sex, anti-BAME, vengeful and threatening?
Life isnt a dress rehearsal you know - --
yo dont get a second chance

the life forever wiv Jesus is well known to be different EVEN tho no one has come back to tell us - bible thumpers please recollect the parable of Dives and Lazarus - is the nearest we will get
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//Does a first cause have to be male, loving, anti-sex, anti-BAME, vengeful and threatening?//
Apparently so...

The first cause seems to be a ****
// Better than yours nailit. I don’t have any questions now re religion .//

yesh I kinda think AB would NOT be my first port of call , when I had- Christ - perish the thought haw haw haw

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