Do You Prefer Fact Or Fiction?

[nailit]

After 55 years on this earth I prefer fact.
As much as it pains me, as much as it upsets me, I prefer facts over faith.
A few weeks ago I was nearly suicidal. Still prefer facts to 'faith'. If I had ended my life then, I would have been dead, end off, no atheist in foxhole here.
Just dont understand this religious preoccupation with living forever....
I honesty just dont get it?
What the hell are you going to to FOREVER?
It would be like watching a game of football that went on forever...there wouldnt be a point,

[Theland]

Page 3? That's not even a veiled attempt at an answer, just fudged mumbo jumbo. You

[Sven666]

Fact. Fact, fact, fact, fact, fact.

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No, fiction. Fiction, fiction, fiction....


Err.... what was the question again?

[Theland]

Question - How did the universe come to exist from nothing?

[Sven666]

Theland

It was created out of nothing, just like God....

[Peter Pedant]

and yup Boys anbd girls
1 Peter 3 16 is

1 Peter 3:16, KJV: "Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ." ... Then if people speak against you, they will be ashamed when they see what a good life you live because you belong to Christ."

seems to be nothing about testing faith by questioning

ho hum - normal post on AB then

[Peter Pedant]

1 Peter 3 16
is quite hard to translate ( from the NewTestament greek silly!)

... may be stumbling as the left out scriptures (*) leading to their own destruction

loipas graphas - writings left out - to stumble over
MAY BE about - the struggle to define the New Testament at the end of the first century ( 50-100 AD that is!) OR the selection of which letters were Kosher and which were not.

Babies ( paidia, tekna.... agapaytoi) Christ did not unpluck his hand from the cross and hand St Mary a missal and bible and say here read this - - - nothing at that time had been written and the whole of the NT had to form over the next centuries

[Peter Pedant]

chrissakes - it makes a difference to 50 x foo what dat den - innit?

[pixie374]

Theland //Question - How did the universe come to exist from nothing//
You keep repeating this, theland, but still haven't told us how God came to exist from nothing, or managed to create an entire universe from nothing. And why?
God would cause more questions than answers.

[Peter Pedant]

// How did the universe come to exist from nothing?//
erm it is not beyond God ( who doeth all fings n aw) to do something like that
is the standard view innit?

[Peter Pedant]

hmm looks like quick return to foo what dat den innit - - innit?

[Theland]

Pixie - God is eternal.
Until you understand that, and accept it, you will not be able to accept anything else I have written.

[Peter Pedant]

can we cue Andy please?

how can a god allow something like mega kiddie death in Gaza and Israel -- a relevant question as both sides are religious

[Theland]

''Allow?''
Israel is targeting rocket launch sites.
They are situated in civilian areas.
So, allow? Think again.

[naomi24]

Theland, why does the existence of the universe require explanation
when according to
you the existence of God doesn’t? You don’t even
have evidence that God exists but claim he is eternal. Utterly irrational.

[Theland]

God has revealed Himself, not least through the miracle of the Jews, as foretold in the bible and their story is still unfolding.
Malachi 3:6.

[pixie374]

//Pixie - God is eternal.
Until you understand that, and accept it, you will not be able to accept anything else I have written.//

I won't understand or accept that, just because it's written down. Could you please explain how?
You seem to expect atheists (as if they are one group together) to have rational answers about where the earth came from. But can't answer yourself, the basic question of where god came from? And how and why?
It's as rational as me telling you the universe "just is". And expecting that to change your beliefs.

[pixie374]

Theland, you can't use the bible to prove itself.

[naomi24]

Theland, that verse doesn’t address the question.

[Theland]

Yes it does.
In spite of its many enemies, God people are not consumed, nor will they ever be.

[Peter Pedant]

// After 55 years on this earth I prefer fact//
and so I have chosen AB as a suitable vehicle - - ter daaah !