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There is a lot of anti-muslim feeling here on AB, and also some anti-christian feeling. I'd be interested to hear from muslims who have thoughts on this.
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Pixie, I don't see anyone tarring any group with the same brush - if they did there would be no mention of 'wheat'. All would instantly be deemed 'chaff'. Furthermore, when the world is under attack from people with a common ideology it's perfectly reasonable to ask how we sort the wheat from the chaff? How do we? Security at Manchester Arena didn't attempt to do that because people like you would deem him a 'bigot'. So much for rationality. Well done!
Don't let's be beastly to the Muslims, they've got there 'uman rights too ?
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YMB - // //but lumping millions into a group and mistrusting them all... is irrational.//
So when people hated the Germans it was irrational then?
Or the Russians in the 60-70's //
Of course it was irrational, it was then, it is now.
But let's be clear - just because something is irrational does not mean that it does not find traction.
Human nature is to distrust something we don;t understand, and it's really easy to form an image of a vaguely sinister 'enemy' whose constituents are all from another country, and therefore 'different' from us.
That natural reaction grows exponentially when it spreads among communities, and it is perfect for media fire-stoking.
That leads to the sort of approach that we see on here day in day out.
Because Islamist terrorists are quite rightly seen as a threat to us as a society and a culture, it is a simple but utterly false link to assume that therefore any and all Muslims must support the aims of terrorists, therefore all Muslims are to be feared, with attendent bigotry in attitudes and behaviour.
Sadly, a lot of that nonsensical conclusion-jumping is underlined and perpetrated on here by individuals who really ought to be bright enough and educated enough to know better.
Ironically, it is those people who constantly trumpet about their 'education' as a sound reason why their bigotry should be believed.
That, in a nutshell, is what feeds the daily examples of bigotry against Muslims that fills the site every day.
Forever stoked and added to by people who, as I said, ought to know better, but clearly their own dep-seated predjudices make them flag-wavers for the less articulate contributors, those who simply like to feel part of a gang, however nasty and ignorant that gang may be.
So when people hated the Germans it was irrational then?
Or the Russians in the 60-70's //
Of course it was irrational, it was then, it is now.
But let's be clear - just because something is irrational does not mean that it does not find traction.
Human nature is to distrust something we don;t understand, and it's really easy to form an image of a vaguely sinister 'enemy' whose constituents are all from another country, and therefore 'different' from us.
That natural reaction grows exponentially when it spreads among communities, and it is perfect for media fire-stoking.
That leads to the sort of approach that we see on here day in day out.
Because Islamist terrorists are quite rightly seen as a threat to us as a society and a culture, it is a simple but utterly false link to assume that therefore any and all Muslims must support the aims of terrorists, therefore all Muslims are to be feared, with attendent bigotry in attitudes and behaviour.
Sadly, a lot of that nonsensical conclusion-jumping is underlined and perpetrated on here by individuals who really ought to be bright enough and educated enough to know better.
Ironically, it is those people who constantly trumpet about their 'education' as a sound reason why their bigotry should be believed.
That, in a nutshell, is what feeds the daily examples of bigotry against Muslims that fills the site every day.
Forever stoked and added to by people who, as I said, ought to know better, but clearly their own dep-seated predjudices make them flag-wavers for the less articulate contributors, those who simply like to feel part of a gang, however nasty and ignorant that gang may be.
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What anti Jewish feelings have been expressed in AB Roy? I must've missed that.
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You may have but I havent." - royfromaus
We await any examples, royfromaus
royfromaus "Plenty of news outlets mention the fact that the bomber was not approached because of the fear of being accused of being racist." -- who and when ?
royfromaus "The people who are always willing to shout "racist" "islamaphobia" where there is non but they think it makes them look good for doing it...they shouldn't take any blame at all?"
You missed the Judeophobes and the 'anti-semitic' chorus, roy.
ymbog "So when people hated the Germans it was irrational then?
Or the Russians in the 60-70's"
Hate one, hate all, eh ?
What anti Jewish feelings have been expressed in AB Roy? I must've missed that.
_________________________
You may have but I havent." - royfromaus
We await any examples, royfromaus
royfromaus "Plenty of news outlets mention the fact that the bomber was not approached because of the fear of being accused of being racist." -- who and when ?
royfromaus "The people who are always willing to shout "racist" "islamaphobia" where there is non but they think it makes them look good for doing it...they shouldn't take any blame at all?"
You missed the Judeophobes and the 'anti-semitic' chorus, roy.
ymbog "So when people hated the Germans it was irrational then?
Or the Russians in the 60-70's"
Hate one, hate all, eh ?
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