Football Sex Abuse: Eric Bristow Condemned For Suggesting Victims Not 'proper Men'

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/38139647

Appalling remark from Bristow, but typical of his type I suppose.

[andy-hughes]

ummmm - I am seriously against the notion of revenge, I think it appears superficially, and certainly to outsiders, to be something that goes towards repairing the damage, or at least makes it slightly easier to live with.

I think it is an instant euphoria, which is false, and can do more damage in the long run.

Reacting to pain by causing pain is not a good idea.

[ladybirder]

He is reported to have said, "victims should not be able to look themselves in the mirror for not "getting their own back" on their abusers in adulthood". What an absolutely astoundingly disgraceful thing to say. Has he thought of how the victims will feel reading that, or does he just not think?

[naomi24]

People here are misunderstanding his attitudes on this issue. In his world many a miscreant has reached his eventual resting place sooner than he imagined – immersed in cement and propping up flyovers - allegedly. Not that it’s the right way to do things of course - but people from that culture are prone to seeking retribution and dispensing ‘justice’ in their own way and by their own standards.

[agchristie]

Naomi > Mikey //He's simply saying that rather than depend upon the law, he would deal with the perpetrators personally.///

Mikey, you said this on 23/11 regarding Mr Mair, murderer of Jo Cox:

"I think I could strangle him with my own hands".

Care to reconsider that remark now?

[hereIam]

I agree with ladybirder, it's not always an option to get your own back or even an easy thing to do.

[ummmm]

I didn't say I agreed with it, Andy, just that I understand it.

It takes a very strong person to not seek revenge when they know they can.

[ummmm]

Naomi- what are you saying?

[agchristie]

Mikey > "typical of his type..."

What does this mean? Is it because he plays darts, likes his beer or that he supports Chelsea?

A very lazy statement at best...

[naomi24]

Ummmm, I repeat, people from that culture are prone to seeking retribution and dispensing ‘justice’ in their own way and by their own standards.

[mikey4444]

Agchristie....why are you not condemning this slob ?

Instead you seem intent on raising petty points.

[ToraToraTora]

Looks like the Crafty Cockney has been dropped from the sky commentary team:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/darts/38141331
What a plonker, probably ratsr5ed but it demonstrated the danger/power of social media.

[ummmm]

Naomi - you're hinting a murder instead of a few slaps!!

[naomi24]

Ummmm, let's not go overboard here. I've simply given an example of what has allegedly happened to some who have upset people with this mindset.

[anneasquith]

Do keep up ttt .

[mikey4444]

TTT...is there an echo on here this morning ?

But you are right...a plonker of the first order. But the difficulty here is that there are lots of people who are as stupid as Bristow, and they will probably agree with him. There are lots of plonkers in the world.

[andy-hughes]

ummmm - //I didn't say I agreed with it, Andy, just that I understand it.

It takes a very strong person to not seek revenge when they know they can. //

No argument from me.

It speaks to the age-old question someone always posts when a thread of this type emerges - 'What would you do if it was you / your child / family member?'

I think the issue is far deeper and more complex than either deserves or is served by Mr Bristow's overly simplistic solution, and I am sure anyone who thinks beyond the superficial will understand that.

[agchristie]

Mikey - I do not agree with Bristow's comments let's be clear.

I have given an example, however, of a situation just last week where, given the opportunity, you would seriously consider meting out your own punishment.

Secondly, I questioned what you were referring to about 'typical of his type'.

I am interested to know what you mean by this.

[andy-hughes]

mikey - //Agchristie....why are you not condemning this slob ? //

I think you and I, and any regular on here, knows AG well enough to take her condemnation as read.

That being understood, she is keen to explore some of the depth of people's attitudes, and the reasons behind them, and that is the gist of her post.

[andy-hughes]

AG and I have cross-posted, but it does appear that my assessment is correct.

[agchristie]

Andy - thank you.