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Major Windows 10 Update On Its Way
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A major update to Windows 10 has been released this week.
It is called the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update.
I believe this is a complete replacement of Windows.
I started to install it on a fairly powerful PC, and I have 150mbps Virgin cable Broadband, and so far it has been running for well over an hour and is still at the stage of "Preparing to install updates" (at 90%)
So if you do have Windows 10 then watch out for this update and be prepared to do very little on your PC for a while (I know it says you can carry on working while it is installing but I prefer to leave the PC alone till it has finished)
If you have a few hours when you are not going to use your PC then maybe go in to the "Check for Updates" option in Settings and try to "kick off" the update.
It is called the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update.
I believe this is a complete replacement of Windows.
I started to install it on a fairly powerful PC, and I have 150mbps Virgin cable Broadband, and so far it has been running for well over an hour and is still at the stage of "Preparing to install updates" (at 90%)
So if you do have Windows 10 then watch out for this update and be prepared to do very little on your PC for a while (I know it says you can carry on working while it is installing but I prefer to leave the PC alone till it has finished)
If you have a few hours when you are not going to use your PC then maybe go in to the "Check for Updates" option in Settings and try to "kick off" the update.
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"It's actually known in the industry as the 80/20 rule,..."
Quite so, Dave. But Windows is not a software application like Excel. It's an operating system and it should do what it says on the tin - operate the machine. When they have cracked that satisfactorily MS might like to add some bells and whistles. But they are a long way from that with W10.
Quite so, Dave. But Windows is not a software application like Excel. It's an operating system and it should do what it says on the tin - operate the machine. When they have cracked that satisfactorily MS might like to add some bells and whistles. But they are a long way from that with W10.
"I still use Windows 7. Do I need Windows 10?"
LOl, that was just soo funny and yet soo darling...
What is it with everyone and their suspicion of updates? cOMPUTER PROGRAMS, SOFTWARE, HARDWARE AND FIRMWARE ARE IN A CONSTANT state of innovation and evolution as is life and everything in it.
The latest version is faster, offers more protection and is easier for other programs,devices who have evolved to interact with it.
It's almost like saying, should I ride my penny farthing to commute into work or take the free company ferrari?
LOl, that was just soo funny and yet soo darling...
What is it with everyone and their suspicion of updates? cOMPUTER PROGRAMS, SOFTWARE, HARDWARE AND FIRMWARE ARE IN A CONSTANT state of innovation and evolution as is life and everything in it.
The latest version is faster, offers more protection and is easier for other programs,devices who have evolved to interact with it.
It's almost like saying, should I ride my penny farthing to commute into work or take the free company ferrari?
Where does this nonsense about Windows constantly falling over come from? The vast majority of the time, it just works. Obviously, no-one ever mentions that their computer has been working fine for weeks; you only get to hear about things that fail occasionally.
I once went to "repair" a machine whose user was complaining that he kept seeing a "Windows did not shut down properly" message whenever he switched it on, and then the machine would take between five and fifteen minutes to go through all sorts of diagnostics and repair cycles before it eventually worked.
Turns out he'd been "switching it off" by flipping the power switch on the wall.
I once went to "repair" a machine whose user was complaining that he kept seeing a "Windows did not shut down properly" message whenever he switched it on, and then the machine would take between five and fifteen minutes to go through all sorts of diagnostics and repair cycles before it eventually worked.
Turns out he'd been "switching it off" by flipping the power switch on the wall.
I've been an MS user since Windows 3 and the OS is far easier to use now than it was then.
If a person just wants to browse internet, play a few games and send a few emails there is the option of smartphones and tablets - these regularly update, too. My phone has just updated to the latest Android OS - that's 3 major changes in 2 years.
My wife's iPad updated from 10 to 11 a short while ago and is set to update again overnight.
If a person just wants to browse internet, play a few games and send a few emails there is the option of smartphones and tablets - these regularly update, too. My phone has just updated to the latest Android OS - that's 3 major changes in 2 years.
My wife's iPad updated from 10 to 11 a short while ago and is set to update again overnight.
With hc and DG on this. I spent twenty odd years in the electronics repairs industry. One thing I did learn in that time is the pace of development is so fast that if you don't stay abreast of it you are dead in the water. Everyone loves to be "trendy" and use Microsoft as the whipping boy for their own shortcomings. If you are daft enough to bolt 3rd party "security" systems, particularly Russian ones, onto a perfectly safe operating system or add unlicensed apps or hardware that do not have Microsoft accreditation, and products that the manufacturers do not intend to support for future developments with drivers or upgrades what do you expect? Bet you a pound to a pinch that you won't get Apple supporting unlicensed products or devices. The motor car was used as an analogy earlier in the thread, a good one. Before you are allowed to operate a motor vehicle on any road in the world(just about) you are required to show a measure of competence and prove that you are not a danger to yourself or others. It is also your responsibility to make yourself aware of new regulations or technical developments. You can't even use a chainsaw without being able to display competence. The web lets any half baked luddite all over it with no requirement to even show common sense. The W10 upgrade is brilliant and is free. It bothers me not one iota that some prefer w3 or whatever, but spare me the misty eyed swooning over old and outmoded systems. This is just a shield to hide a reluctance to invest in decent equipment or the can't be bothered to change mindset. Anyone who shops, or uses the net to service utility bills and the like, is mad to hang on to old and cold systems. The weakest link is the user,.............oh and your mobile phone.
Lol I had a little "rant" there. I upgraded the Desktop Wed AM Volts, and was going to "do" the lappie at the weekend, but I am up and full of mischief so I have launched it into the unknown.:)) No Starting handle Ozz but I could probably sort a horse out for your cart. Save me putting a few shillings on it at the weekend.
"Cant understand why people get in a state about an upgrade..."
Because (a) with W10 you cannot (easily) decline it and (b) it is not an "upgrade", it is simply a fix for the problems that exist with the existing product.
There should be no need to change the operating system on a machine where no changes to hardware or usage are made. I use my machine in exactly the same way and for the same purposes now as when it was first purchased. I have no issues with "security" and in any case do not expect Windows to protect me against such threats. (I wouldn't rely on WIndows to tell me whether the sun was going to rise tomorrow morning). It should not permissable for a third party to compulsorily make changes to the software on my computer, By all means give me the option but don't put my machine out of action for a lengthy period to provide something I don't want unless I agree.
"The motor car was used as an analogy earlier in the thread, a good one."
No it isn't, Togo. The driving test examines your ability to drive the car (and I believe it now also includes basic maintenance tasks such as filling up the windscreen washer bottle). It does not include being able to manage software upgrades to the engine management system and iron out any problems that result.
Because (a) with W10 you cannot (easily) decline it and (b) it is not an "upgrade", it is simply a fix for the problems that exist with the existing product.
There should be no need to change the operating system on a machine where no changes to hardware or usage are made. I use my machine in exactly the same way and for the same purposes now as when it was first purchased. I have no issues with "security" and in any case do not expect Windows to protect me against such threats. (I wouldn't rely on WIndows to tell me whether the sun was going to rise tomorrow morning). It should not permissable for a third party to compulsorily make changes to the software on my computer, By all means give me the option but don't put my machine out of action for a lengthy period to provide something I don't want unless I agree.
"The motor car was used as an analogy earlier in the thread, a good one."
No it isn't, Togo. The driving test examines your ability to drive the car (and I believe it now also includes basic maintenance tasks such as filling up the windscreen washer bottle). It does not include being able to manage software upgrades to the engine management system and iron out any problems that result.
I am still a bit puzzled by this.
I use Windows 10 Home, version 1703. It came with my new Lenovo PC when I bought it in (approx) summer 2015. I have been very pleased with it and it hasn't given me any problems since I bought it. (good value for money, at £299, without a monitor ! )
I can't see that there is an "auto" update on my PC, so if I do want to update to this latest version of Windows 10, just how do I go about please ?
I use Windows 10 Home, version 1703. It came with my new Lenovo PC when I bought it in (approx) summer 2015. I have been very pleased with it and it hasn't given me any problems since I bought it. (good value for money, at £299, without a monitor ! )
I can't see that there is an "auto" update on my PC, so if I do want to update to this latest version of Windows 10, just how do I go about please ?
Mikey - click the Windows logo bottom-left, click the "Settings" gearwheel, click "Update & Security", click "Check for Updates".
If it says no updates available (or some such), it'll be because M'soft are phasing it in & your machine simply hasn't reached the front of the queue yet - it will get there! If you want to force it anyway, click the link below to the Update Assistant & follow the instructions from there - you want the "Update Now" button - **not** the "Download tool now" button -
http://
As has been mentioned, your machine will be out of action for a while, so wait until you're not using it.
If it says no updates available (or some such), it'll be because M'soft are phasing it in & your machine simply hasn't reached the front of the queue yet - it will get there! If you want to force it anyway, click the link below to the Update Assistant & follow the instructions from there - you want the "Update Now" button - **not** the "Download tool now" button -
http://
As has been mentioned, your machine will be out of action for a while, so wait until you're not using it.
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