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Sir Mo Farah Faces Being Banned From Returning To America.
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One then has to ask, as a British citizen, why have you along with your family decided to live in America, especially when you were honoured with a knighthood?
One then has to ask, as a British citizen, why have you along with your family decided to live in America, especially when you were honoured with a knighthood?
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“There are several sites including the Wall Street Journal saying that ban applies to anyone born in the seven countries not just nationals.”
Then they need to read the wording of Mr Trump’s order (as I have) and not just make a speculative guess at its provisions. It makes no mention of “persons born in…” but only of foreign nationals.
“And if you have family still left in the country you came from, for example, it's increasingly difficult to visit that country except on the passport of your country of origin if you are still eligible for said passport.”
How many countries are difficult to visit on a UK or US passport? However, it makes little difference. People with dual nationality may sometimes encounter difficulties as this issue demonstrates. It’s called taking the rough with the smooth. The choice is theirs.
Then they need to read the wording of Mr Trump’s order (as I have) and not just make a speculative guess at its provisions. It makes no mention of “persons born in…” but only of foreign nationals.
“And if you have family still left in the country you came from, for example, it's increasingly difficult to visit that country except on the passport of your country of origin if you are still eligible for said passport.”
How many countries are difficult to visit on a UK or US passport? However, it makes little difference. People with dual nationality may sometimes encounter difficulties as this issue demonstrates. It’s called taking the rough with the smooth. The choice is theirs.
The BBC link states Mo Farah does not have dual nationality. A very curious comment that he should not live abroad because he's been knighted. Plenty of our knighted actor friends live in another country. Other athletes, for example, Paula Radcliffe, chose to live abroad at the height of her career. If the training opportunities are better, it seems a very sensible move.
If Mr Farrah does not have dual nationality (assuming he has exclusively UK nationality) he will not be affected by the President's order.
The full text of President Trump's order can be seen here:
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The full text of President Trump's order can be seen here:
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NJ
The executive order states 'hailing from'. That means that Mo Farah would be subject to the ban.
This part is interesting:
Perhaps in no instance was that more apparent than the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, when State Department policy prevented consular officers from properly scrutinizing the visa applications of several of the 19 foreign nationals who went on to murder nearly 3,000 Americans.
Odd then, that Saudi Arabia isn't on the list, as 15 of the 19 terrorists involved in that attack were from Saudi Arabia, with the others were from the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Lebanon (none of whom are on the list either).
The executive order states 'hailing from'. That means that Mo Farah would be subject to the ban.
This part is interesting:
Perhaps in no instance was that more apparent than the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, when State Department policy prevented consular officers from properly scrutinizing the visa applications of several of the 19 foreign nationals who went on to murder nearly 3,000 Americans.
Odd then, that Saudi Arabia isn't on the list, as 15 of the 19 terrorists involved in that attack were from Saudi Arabia, with the others were from the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Lebanon (none of whom are on the list either).
But a big cheer for this part of Section 1:
[i] In addition, the United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including "honor" killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation.[i]
That means no Disneyworld holidays for any member of the EDL, Britain First or BNP!
Clouds/silver lining etc.
[i] In addition, the United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including "honor" killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation.[i]
That means no Disneyworld holidays for any member of the EDL, Britain First or BNP!
Clouds/silver lining etc.
sp1814 Saudi Arabia is not going to be on the list when SaudiAramco a company jointly owned between the Saudi State and the USA employs several thousand US citizens on its sites in Saudi Arabia and produces a large % of the world's crude oil . Not a good idea to annoy a country that has 75% of the entire world's proven oil reserves and is home to thousands of your own citizens!!
I lived and worked for Aramco in Dhahran for 3 years, us 'Brits' were outnumbered over 200 to 1 by the Yanks.
I lived and worked for Aramco in Dhahran for 3 years, us 'Brits' were outnumbered over 200 to 1 by the Yanks.
EDDIE51
I see your point completely.
However, Trump, promised a total and complete shutdown on Muslims entering the United States on the Presidential campaign trail. That is not what he's now delivered.
He's delivered a total shutdown on Muslims from countries where Trump has business interests.
It may be a coincidence, or it may not.
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I see your point completely.
However, Trump, promised a total and complete shutdown on Muslims entering the United States on the Presidential campaign trail. That is not what he's now delivered.
He's delivered a total shutdown on Muslims from countries where Trump has business interests.
It may be a coincidence, or it may not.
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“The executive order states 'hailing from'.”
Where exactly, sp? I’ve read it through. I’ve run it through Word and done a search for the term “hailing from” (and similar). Do me a favour. Please do the same (with the actual text to which I’ve provided a link, that is, not some journalist’s liberal interpretation of it) and let me know what I’ve missed. There are numerous references to "foreign nationals" but none that I can find referring to people "hailing from".
Where exactly, sp? I’ve read it through. I’ve run it through Word and done a search for the term “hailing from” (and similar). Do me a favour. Please do the same (with the actual text to which I’ve provided a link, that is, not some journalist’s liberal interpretation of it) and let me know what I’ve missed. There are numerous references to "foreign nationals" but none that I can find referring to people "hailing from".
campbellking
/// A very curious comment that he should not live abroad because he's been knighted. ///
Don't put words that I have never said.
Where have I said that he should 'not' live abroad because he's been knighted?
If you read what I said then you will see that I put "One then has to ask, as a British citizen, why have you along with your family decided to live in America, especially when you were honoured with a knighthood"?
A whole lot of difference querying why he chose to live abroad than saying that he should not live abroad.
/// A very curious comment that he should not live abroad because he's been knighted. ///
Don't put words that I have never said.
Where have I said that he should 'not' live abroad because he's been knighted?
If you read what I said then you will see that I put "One then has to ask, as a British citizen, why have you along with your family decided to live in America, especially when you were honoured with a knighthood"?
A whole lot of difference querying why he chose to live abroad than saying that he should not live abroad.
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